Automated Job Rejection: Or, Cutting One's Own Throat As An Employer

[The Brain]

Having parents who care is a bad thing now?

[Eddie Teach]

From the employer's POV, it's good to know that the job applicant was actually the on who filled out the application, which you can only be sure about if they are applying in person.  During the time I was making hiring decisions, I saw plenty of cases in which the applicants mother/brother/girlfriend/buddy/wiife filled out the application for them because the applicant couldn't or wouldn't.  None of those people even got an interview.  I would have wasted a lot of time interviewing them if we had taken the applications on-line, because I wouldn't have known that the applicant was too do-less to even actually bother to apply.

I suspect most of those get weeded out when there's some kind of advanced degree/certificate/training requirement involved.

[CountDeMoney]

From the employer's POV, it's good to know that the job applicant was actually the on who filled out the application, which you can only be sure about if they are applying in person.  During the time I was making hiring decisions, I saw plenty of cases in which the applicants mother/brother/girlfriend/buddy/wiife filled out the application for them because the applicant couldn't or wouldn't.  None of those people even got an interview.  I would have wasted a lot of time interviewing them if we had taken the applications on-line, because I wouldn't have known that the applicant was too do-less to even actually bother to apply.

I hired somebody whose Mom called me.  Granted, she was a VP's executive assistant, but still.  She cared.  He worked out.

[Barrister]

If they can leave a position unfilled for a year, they don't really need that position.  If they really want it, they will be willing to compromise.  Sometimes I feel the hiring isn't sincere.  They just want to say to someone within the organisation that they are hiring.  It could be "we can't do this until we hire someone, but since we haven't been able to hire someone we can't do what you want us to do" or "we are trying to hire someone to share the work, but since nobody has turned up you guys need to put in more hours".

I think this might be more of a government-only kind of thinking, but yes.

Managers like having a large budget - it's how you feel important.  But managers also like to come in under-budget - it's how you get promoted.  And for awhile in Alberta managers got bonuses if they were under budget.

So keeping positions unfilled for periods of time was a good way to do this.  Now I think if a position was unfilled for too long you might lose it entirely so they would hire someone eventually.  But there was generally no rush to fill a position.

[garbon]

From the employer's POV, it's good to know that the job applicant was actually the on who filled out the application, which you can only be sure about if they are applying in person.  During the time I was making hiring decisions, I saw plenty of cases in which the applicants mother/brother/girlfriend/buddy/wiife filled out the application for them because the applicant couldn't or wouldn't.  None of those people even got an interview.  I would have wasted a lot of time interviewing them if we had taken the applications on-line, because I wouldn't have known that the applicant was too do-less to even actually bother to apply.

I guess we're thinking of different sorts of positions.

[Josquius]

Don't I know about the sucky situation.
Before I came here I couldn't even get a crappy minimum wage job in a bar or the like. All I got was some work labouring...and that was only because it was with my dad (it sucked. After 2 days hard work I ended up with only £20-30 more than I would have got not working....)

I just hope I can twist this current job into counting for 2 years of office work experience.

"Notice: This is an unpaid internship position.

This shit really really needs stamping out. Its really biased in favour of the kids of rich parents.
I'd have loved to do an internship, it would been interesting and really helped me when it came to getting a job. No way I could afford it though. It would involve living in London or wherever for a few months without even getting unemployment benefits.

[Ed Anger]

This shit really really needs stamping out. Its really biased in favour of the kids of rich parents.

You know, I don't think I've ever had rich kids interning. They were all college kids doing it for credit.

I did do some nepotism though a couple of intern spots.

[Maximus]

From the employer's POV, it's good to know that the job applicant was actually the on who filled out the application, which you can only be sure about if they are applying in person.  During the time I was making hiring decisions, I saw plenty of cases in which the applicants mother/brother/girlfriend/buddy/wiife filled out the application for them because the applicant couldn't or wouldn't.  None of those people even got an interview.  I would have wasted a lot of time interviewing them if we had taken the applications on-line, because I wouldn't have known that the applicant was too do-less to even actually bother to apply.

I would have had a hard time travelling around the country applying for jobs on my income.

[dps]

From the employer's POV, it's good to know that the job applicant was actually the on who filled out the application, which you can only be sure about if they are applying in person.  During the time I was making hiring decisions, I saw plenty of cases in which the applicants mother/brother/girlfriend/buddy/wiife filled out the application for them because the applicant couldn't or wouldn't.  None of those people even got an interview.  I would have wasted a lot of time interviewing them if we had taken the applications on-line, because I wouldn't have known that the applicant was too do-less to even actually bother to apply.

I guess we're thinking of different sorts of positions.

Yes, I was hiring for unskilled, entry-level positions, so we're really talking about different applicant pools than those for skilled/certified/experienced workers.  But either way, there are problems with over-automated systems.

[garbon]

Yes, I was hiring for unskilled, entry-level positions, so we're really talking about different applicant pools than those for skilled/certified/experienced workers.  But either way, there are problems with over-automated systems.

Well on the skilled side, that's what you have HR do phone interview for...but yeah when I had an unskilled job, I filled out an application in person / was interviewed in person as my first and only round.

[Josquius]

I would have had a hard time travelling around the country applying for jobs on my income.

Not even applying, when I was unemployed I couldn't afford to go to many interviews even.