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Started by mongers, June 18, 2012, 02:47:00 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: sbr on August 07, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 07, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
A yellow card for counting out loud?  :huh:

How about 3 seconds in the key in basketball?  Is there anything wrong witha defender counting out loud while Shaq is camped in the key?  Or should the defender get a technical foul?

That is actually a very good example sbr.  Coaches often get warned that they will recieve a technical foul for doing exactly that...

I am pretty sure I have heard players doing it though.

Good for you.  When I was playing and coaching it was a big no no. 


katmai

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Josephus

Apparently even Prime Minister Harper weighed in on the issue. Didn't hear the whole thing, my TV auto-mutes when he comes on, but unless he said, "We will invade Norway tomorrow," I won't vote for him.
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katmai

Here's a no call for you canucks to feel all warm and happy.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

MadBurgerMaker

#514
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
Yeah, there is no way of guarding against unreasonable judgments if those judgments are able to be made.

Here is a good description of what occurred from the Globe and Mail.

QuoteThe U.S. tied the game on a penalty kick by Abby Wambach after referee Christina Pedersen gave the U.S. a free kick in the 78th minute, ruling Canadian goalkeeper Erin McLeod had taken more than six seconds to put the ball in play. Megan Rapinoe's subsequent free kick struck Canadian defender Marie-Eve Nault on the arm, which Pedersen ruled to be a hand-ball. They were highly literal interpretations of rules that are usually viewed in a more obtuse manner, especially given the time and the significance of the match.

The link you gave was not the Semi finals of the olympic games in the last 10 minutes of a one goal game.

It would be like calling a technical foul for something a player had been doing all game long in the final moments of a baskball game to allow the other team to tie from the free throw line.

What is most shameful about the whole episode is that the Yank who cause this disgrace of a call seems rather proud of herself.  Its disgraceful conduct.

So, it's a real, actual rule, right?  One that says the goalie can't hold on to the ball for more than six seconds, right?  The goalie held the ball for more than 6 seconds, right?  The goalie did this a bunch of times but only got nailed for it once?  Seems like fans of the other team should be the ones pissed about all the blatant no calls.

katmai

But it's never called so she shouldn't have called it now, get your facts straight mbm!
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son


sbr

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 07, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 05:20:17 PM
Quote from: sbr on August 07, 2012, 05:12:23 PM
A yellow card for counting out loud?  :huh:

How about 3 seconds in the key in basketball?  Is there anything wrong witha defender counting out loud while Shaq is camped in the key?  Or should the defender get a technical foul?

That is actually a very good example sbr.  Coaches often get warned that they will recieve a technical foul for doing exactly that...

I am pretty sure I have heard players doing it though.

Good for you.  When I was playing and coaching it was a big no no.

Well the Canadian Ambassador and I have discussed it over dinner and things are worked out.

DGuller

Anyway, the job of the referee is to ensure that the game is conducted fairly.  To have a superior team lose because one of the players on the inferior team scored three goals would be a travesty.

Drakken

Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
What is most shameful about the whole episode is that the Yank who cause this disgrace of a call seems rather proud of herself.  Its disgraceful conduct.

Don't worry CC, they will get eaten alive by the little Jappo critters next game. :console:

sbr

QuoteOlympic gold medal favorite Liu Xiang failed to clear the first hurdle during heats on Tuesday and was disqualified, likely bringing an end to an Olympic career that would have been remembered as much for injuries as his 2004 gold medal.

But Liu changed the narrative after his fall on Tuesday. He limped off the track after clipping the opening obstacle and then, suddenly, changed his mind. Instead, he hopped 100 meters on one foot to what would have been his final hurdle, gently bent down and kissed it, a symbolic end to an Olympic career that began with a gold medal in Athens but was overshadowed by the disappointment of Beijing, when he was China's great track hope but could barely get out of the starting block due to injury.

Liu was met at the finish line by his fellow competitors, who helped him off the track into a wheelchair. It was a tragic triumph.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/hurdler-falls-clutching-his-achilles-refuses-to-q

crazy canuck

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on August 07, 2012, 05:44:59 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
Yeah, there is no way of guarding against unreasonable judgments if those judgments are able to be made.

Here is a good description of what occurred from the Globe and Mail.

QuoteThe U.S. tied the game on a penalty kick by Abby Wambach after referee Christina Pedersen gave the U.S. a free kick in the 78th minute, ruling Canadian goalkeeper Erin McLeod had taken more than six seconds to put the ball in play. Megan Rapinoe's subsequent free kick struck Canadian defender Marie-Eve Nault on the arm, which Pedersen ruled to be a hand-ball. They were highly literal interpretations of rules that are usually viewed in a more obtuse manner, especially given the time and the significance of the match.

The link you gave was not the Semi finals of the olympic games in the last 10 minutes of a one goal game.

It would be like calling a technical foul for something a player had been doing all game long in the final moments of a baskball game to allow the other team to tie from the free throw line.

What is most shameful about the whole episode is that the Yank who cause this disgrace of a call seems rather proud of herself.  Its disgraceful conduct.

So, it's a real, actual rule, right?  One that says the goalie can't hold on to the ball for more than six seconds, right?  The goalie held the ball for more than 6 seconds, right?  The goalie did this a bunch of times but only got nailed for it once?  Seems like fans of the other team should be the ones pissed about all the blatant no calls.

For those of you who dont quite get it.  Here is a quote from a FIFA ref from the Globe and Mail.  While he cant come out and outright say the ref screwed up he did say this:

QuoteAs for the delay-of-play, the rules specifically state a player cannot hold onto a ball for more than six seconds when putting it back into play. "But sometimes there's some common sense that has to go with it and spirit of the game," Vergara said. "We have to use the same laws but at the same time, there has to flexibility within the laws to have a little more common sense."


Drakken

Quote from: sbr on August 07, 2012, 08:48:14 PM
QuoteOlympic gold medal favorite Liu Xiang failed to clear the first hurdle during heats on Tuesday and was disqualified, likely bringing an end to an Olympic career that would have been remembered as much for injuries as his 2004 gold medal.

But Liu changed the narrative after his fall on Tuesday. He limped off the track after clipping the opening obstacle and then, suddenly, changed his mind. Instead, he hopped 100 meters on one foot to what would have been his final hurdle, gently bent down and kissed it, a symbolic end to an Olympic career that began with a gold medal in Athens but was overshadowed by the disappointment of Beijing, when he was China's great track hope but could barely get out of the starting block due to injury.

Liu was met at the finish line by his fellow competitors, who helped him off the track into a wheelchair. It was a tragic triumph.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/hurdler-falls-clutching-his-achilles-refuses-to-q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kW4uYInAFE

Grey Fox

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MadBurgerMaker

#524
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 07, 2012, 09:11:27 PM
As for the delay-of-play, the rules specifically state a player cannot hold onto a ball for more than six seconds when putting it back into play.

There's the part that is actually important, for those who don't quite get it.

She held the ball for more than six seconds.  The rules specifically state you can't do that.  It was called correctly.  Period. 

Next time maybe your goalie should stop the shot that came later.  Or not hold the ball for 10 or 15 seconds.