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Started by grumbler, June 02, 2012, 03:24:05 PM

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MadBurgerMaker

Goddammit, another player down.  Valmy, the one hurt at halftime was Goodwin, btw.  :bleeding:



But hey look at ISU. Or something.


Jesus, they're bringing the cart out.

FunkMonk

Oh wow, I forgot about the game today, came to this thread, winced a bit, said to myself HEY CANT BE THAT BAD, LETS CHECK THE SCORE ON ES--







Blow up the world. I don't care any more.
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MadBurgerMaker

Has.....has Moore moved at all?   :(

Valmy

#963
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
They put a TD on the board.  They gave the O the ball back inside the 15.  They absolutely did enough to win.

Yes that was horrible and that was certainly one of the main places Texas lost the game.  But I said nothing about that.  They gave up 200 yards rushing to WV's back up running back right up the middle.  That was why I said the offense is going to have to put up 40+ points a game in order to win this year.  And here we are with OU's struggling running game going right up the gut for 9 yards a carry.  You are not going to beat anybody that way.  If Texas had scored on that drive at the 15 WV was going to go right down the field.  Texas might have lost anyway.  But certainly Bergeron not being able to run over people in the 4th quarter was a serious concern but...

The fact of the matter this is the worst defense Mack Brown has ever had and with the personnel they had they should have been one of the best.  This is underachievement on a staggering scale.

QuoteOf course I don't expect them to outscore everyone 50-48.  I don't count WVU as "everyone."

Well they are going to have to unless Diaz can adjust.  Blitzing less would be a start.  They need more people back there.

WV may not be "everyone" on the passing side but their back-up RB sure is "everyone".

QuoteVaccaro is okay, like Gideon was okay.  Phillips is a disaster though.  I don't know what he's looking at half the time he's out there.  The LBs are fucked, even more so with Hicks missing.  But it's part of what I'm talking about.  The remaining LBs and Adrian Phillips aren't "the D."

They are because that is where the other offense is going on every play.  You are only as strong as your weakest link on defense.

Granted the whole team has sucked it up today.  This just cannot continue to happen.  It may be getting time for Mack to step down.  We will see how the rest of the year goes.
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Valmy

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MadBurgerMaker

They said he had movement in his upper body, but didn't mention his legs at all.  I hope I'm not reading too much into that.

Valmy

I am looking around to try to get an update on him.
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MadBurgerMaker

#967
Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 02:04:55 PM
Yes that was horrible and that was certainly one of the main places Texas lost the game.  But I said nothing about that.

I did when I said they did enough to win and then mentioned that and the TD.  You responded directly to that post, but you cut out that part for some reason.

QuoteThey gave up 200 yards rushing to WV's back up running back right up the middle.  That was why I said the offense is going to have to put up 40+ points a game in order to win this year.  And here we are with OU's struggling running game going right up the gut for 9 yards a carry.  You are not going to beat anybody that way.  If Texas had scored on that drive at the 15 WV was going to go right down the field.  Texas might have lost anyway.  But certainly Bergeron not being able to run over people in the 4th quarter was a serious concern but...

No, you said the offense is going to have to beat everyone 50-48.  Putting up 40 points per game, well shit, they've actually been doing that until this meltdown where they haven't and very possibly won't score any.  I don't know why you keep shitting on that WVU RB like he's automatically some sort of scrub or something.  Johnathan Grey is the backup RB at Texas.  Is he some nobody scrub that shouldn't be able to do anything?  Fuck no. 

The lack of a running game is on the pussy OL.

QuoteThe fact of the matter this is the worst defense Mack Brown has ever had and with the personnel they had they should have been one of the best.  This is underachievement on a staggering scale.

It's underachievement on a scale that Mack Brown teams seem to realize almost every year at least somewhere.  A Mack Brownian scale.   

QuoteWell they are going to have to unless Diaz can adjust.  Blitzing less would be a start.  They need more people back there.

WV may not be "everyone" on the passing side but their back-up RB sure is "everyone".

The adjustment Diaz will make is BLITZ MORE!  And they'll keep running straight by the plays.

QuoteThey are because that is where the other offense is going on every play.  You are only as strong as your weakest link on defense.

Granted the whole team has sucked it up today.  This just cannot continue to happen.  It may be getting time for Mack to step down.  We will see how the rest of the year goes.

The weakest link at this point seems to be Manny Diaz, really.  As you say, there don't seem to be any changes to adjust to the strengths and weaknesses of the team.  They just keep going like it's the same as last year, when it clearly isn't.

As far as Mack stepping down, he probably should have done so after the 2009 NC game.  I like Mack, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the last 140 wins or whatever he has at Texas, not to mention that thing in 2005, but it really seems like it's time for a change.  I wonder if Dodds would retire at the same time.  Would that leave Texas with Plonsky only?  That....I don't know how I feel about that. 

MadBurgerMaker

#968
Moore is okay, so that's good.  Ash might be hurt now, which is not so good.  CASE MCCOY TIME?!  That would be about the time I change the channel.


E:  Yeah that wrist looks fucked up.  Medical redshirt is....40% of the season?  Whatever it is, it's too late.  Gonna be Case McCoy for a while if it's broken.  Or maybe they'll just run nothing but the zone read with Overstreet.  I think I would prefer that over Case.

Whoa, two years in the new conditioning program seems to have helped Case with that whole...throwing...thing.  Still throws off his back foot, but at least he can send it more than 15 yards down field now.

Eddie Teach

Texas just got a touchdown, maybe they can come back. Just need 5-6 successful onside kicks and quick tds.  :hmm:
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MadBurgerMaker

Well it would have happened if those new onside kick rules didn't exist.

Valmy

Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 13, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
No, you said the offense is going to have to beat everyone 50-48.  Putting up 40 points per game, well shit, they've actually been doing that until this meltdown where they haven't and very possibly won't score any.

Ok I am really tired of this shit.  I have no idea why you are calling me out every single game.  What I said was

QuoteHarsin and company are going to need to put up 40+ every game this year in order to win.

Which prompted you to rip me saying I was delusional blah blah.

Just like the previous week you ripped me for saying the games against OSU, WV, OU, and BU were huge and monstrous.

And now I get shit because I did not rip the offensive line sufficiently previously and it sends us into another stupid argument about nothing.

We basically agree on everything.  So lets cut it out and be friends again.
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CountDeMoney

Days like this makes Longhorn Nation sensitive.

Group hug.

MadBurgerMaker

#973
E:  ^^  Group hugs involving Domer fans?  Yuck.  I'm going to go see a movie instead. ^^

Quote from: Valmy on October 13, 2012, 03:10:34 PM
Ok I am really tired of this shit.  I have no idea why you are calling me out every single game.  What I said was

QuoteHarsin and company are going to need to put up 40+ every game this year in order to win.

You're right, I was thinking about this last one where you were saying "surely I didn't think blahblah."

QuoteWhich prompted you to rip me saying I was delusional blah blah.

I didn't say you were delusional.  I said you were delusional if you thought they would shut WVU down.  Here's the posts, yo:

QuoteYeah the Texas defense didn't lose that game, guy.  You're delusional if you think they were going to shut down WVU.
QuoteWell I guess I am delusional then.  Hard to win when they bring in some nobody running back and he runs right up the middle for 200+ yards all game.

Right there, I said you're delusional if you think they'd shut WVU down.  You said well I guess I'm delusional, implying you thought the defense would shut them down, which is crazy talk. 

Then said this:
QuoteYou should probably understand that it isn't on one unit, no matter how much you want to place the blame solely on the defense.   O, D, and ST all made plays and all had fuckups.  Texas simply got flat out beaten by a better team. 

You didn't respond.  What am I supposed to think?

QuoteJust like the previous week you ripped me for saying the games against OSU, WV, OU, and BU were huge and monstrous.

I didn't rip you.  Goddamn, dude.  I said Baylor and OSU were important games they should win, just that I don't think they're HUGE MONSTER SHOWDOWNS or some garbage. 

It's right here: http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,7699.765.html

Find where I'm "ripping" you.  I don't think they're monster games. vOv  I still don't. 

QuoteAnd now I get shit because I did not rip the offensive line sufficiently previously and it sends us into another stupid argument about nothing.

We basically agree on everything.  So lets cut it out and be friends again.

Not we don't really, but I don't see why we stopped e-friends somehow because I disagreed with some shit.  I'm not sitting here calling you a bitch or something like you're grumbler, who I can't fucking stand.

MadBurgerMaker

#974
Oh, valmy, did you see that screen shot of Ash's wrist/arm?  That shit is broken, and Case McCoy is the starting QB now.

E:  Here it is:



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