DSM 5 Could Mean 40% of College Students Are Alcoholics

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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 18, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
Because you would've gone insane trapped in Leave It To Beaver.

You'd think that, but no.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 18, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
Because you would've gone insane trapped in Leave It To Beaver.

You'd think that, but no.

Mayberry would've been more fun.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 18, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 11:41:54 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 18, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
Because you would've gone insane trapped in Leave It To Beaver.

You'd think that, but no.

Mayberry would've been more fun.

Actually, living in all the sitcoms linked together would have been a hoot.  If Mayberry gets boring, go hang out at the Munsters' house.  Next day, stop by Donna Reed's house while the kids are at school.  Late that night go sneak into Fred Rutherford's yard & leave some barrel hoops, etc.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Malthus

Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 11:02:08 AM
In my book, an alcoholic is someone who is addicted to alcohol, period.  If someone just drinks a lot without any sort of addiction, he is just a heavy drinker. 

Back in 6th grade Health class we were shown a film that defined anyone who drinks alone as an alcoholic.  It then sarcastically identified social drinkers, who do not think of themselves as alcoholics, but actually are.  So the bottom line from the film is that anyone who drinks is an alcoholic.  All of us knew that was complete BS. 

The only redeeming feature of the film was when they got a fish drunk by pouring a little grain alcohol into the tank.

Sort of like when folks claim anyone who smokes pot is a "drug addict".  ;)

But yeah, I hear ya.

The problem is that of course there is a whole spectrum of behaviours from "never touch the struff" through "has the occasional glass of wine or puff off a joint to be sociable" right way through "lives under an overpass sucking Lysol through a sock/is 55 and stinks up his parent's basement with constant smoking while listening to the music popular when he was 18". Somewhere along the line is behaviour that is compulsive and destructive, but it is often hard to spot exactly where.

My take: if what you do is all about the high rather than all about other people - and getting the high actually damages your relations with other people - then, it's a problem.
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viper37

Quote from: Malthus on May 18, 2012, 12:26:04 PM
Sort of like when folks claim anyone who smokes pot is a "drug addict".  ;)
If someone can't enjoy himself/herself without his/her fix (pot, alcohol, harder drugs), than that person is a drug addict or an alcoholic.
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Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 11:17:40 AM
Golden era.  Pity I couldn't experience it.

It was a time when salaries and job security were high and living expenses were low.  Couldn't last forever.
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derspiess

Quote from: Valmy on May 18, 2012, 12:46:25 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 11:17:40 AM
Golden era.  Pity I couldn't experience it.

It was a time when salaries and job security were high and living expenses were low.  Couldn't last forever.

I know :(
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 11:33:15 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 18, 2012, 11:32:09 AM
Yes, you would have been right at home in the Birmingham PD.  :P

:rolleyes:  Why do you jerks always have to bring up race whenever I pine for the 50s?

We could raise taxes to 1950's levels if you like.
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derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on May 18, 2012, 01:18:33 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 18, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
We could raise taxes to 1950's levels if you like.

I bet you'd like that.
Well, what part of the 1950's did you like?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

Why do quite a few Americans have a problem with drinkers; after all much of the British empire was won by half-cut people.   :bowler:
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