Romney's Bullying/Gay Bashing High School Days

[11B4V]

I guess I should clarify/refine my position in that I am not claiming that bullies are "good" or "correct" in what they do. They are dumb and primitive, but neither they are morally evil - just more "lower brain functions" in their social responses.

They pick victims who are socially "weak", e.g. have no friends to call on/are unpopular etc. I think anti-bullying actions should focus less on punishing these brutes and more on teaching children how to overcome these "weaknesses" - and where this does not happen, parents are usually to blame.

Does it sound more acceptable?

I dont see a problem with that line of reasoning.

[alfred russel]

When I was in kindergarten, there was another kid that was bullying me. My father came up with a solution: he asked me who the biggest and strongest boy in class was, and then talked to his parents and had him come over for a few days. Before long we were friends and the bullying problems were over.

The flip side of this story is after that the two of us were constantly getting in trouble for being mean on the playground. Later on this developed into me being a part of a group of 2nd/3rd graders that ruled the playground by picking out someone by themselves and making their life miserable for the day. Eventually this ended when my father was called in by the school administrators.

After that, as one of the smaller and least athletic kids, I resumed my previous role of bully victim (though not too badly, more of just being picked on from time to time). In this way I experienced the full circle of elementary school life.

[Ed Anger]

Beat the parents of the bully. They will beat his ass and problem solved.

Look for my new book, Beat the living shit out of everybody by Dr. Monc E Butt

[CountDeMoney]

They pick victims who are socially "weak", e.g. have no friends to call on/are unpopular etc. I think anti-bullying actions should focus less on punishing these brutes and more on teaching children how to overcome these "weaknesses" - and where this does not happen, parents are usually to blame.

Does it sound more acceptable?

Martinus' posts, like so much bear shit, oftentimes requires some time to sift through the crap before you get to the berries.

In the age of hover-mothers you're seeing a lot of kids whose, shall we say, "more sensitive aspects" of their personalities are being exasperated by their parents' inability to let them stand on their own two legs, to let them experience success or failure on their own terms and to learn from them.

I have a good friend whose son is 12--very intelligent, very sharp in school, big participant in Cub Scouts, and quite frankly, a complete and total weenie.  I've known her long enough to watch it all happen.  She'd let him watch her get dressed until he was 8.  She "cuddles" with him.  Still has a need to be tucked in. 

Of course, once it got bad enough to the point that he had a melt down bordering on clinical before going on a camping trip with his Cub Scout troop last summer, because he didn't want to spend the night away from her. 

Naturally she bristles at the criticism when I've told her how completely damaging her behavior has been with her lil' snoogums;  after all, what the fuck do I know, I have a cat.

But in short, every mental attachment need for this kid has been terribly arrested by Mommy.   Emotionally, his needle is fucking skipping.  And the other kids see it at school--and that causes problems.

Now, she's got him going to a behaviorist because honestly, she totally fucking broke him.  She realizes that now, but it's a little too late.

[Camerus]

I got bullied sporadically by one kid for a couple months in the middle of grade 6, before it just kind of died out.  I don't remember doing anything to have brought it on or to have stopped it.  The following year, I once rolled my classmate into a mound of dog shit and he cried afterwards and I felt bad.  That's all the bullying I ever was on either end of, as far as I can remember.

As to the broader topic, I don't see why it has to be an either/or approach to bullying.  Schools should have no tolerance for bullying, and punish students who engage in it.  But at the same time, teaching victims the steps needed to deal with it / prevent it on their own is useful, as well. 

[Camerus]

Incidentally, that kid who bothered me for a couple months turned out later to be a gay high school dropout.    

[Sheilbh]

Ugh, Hunstman. The completely non-viable individual that people can wail over when they moan about our current crop.  Here's a hint - if you can't get the media to say anything about you, it doesn't matter how awesome your views are.

Huntsman was the media's candidate.  His problem was with voters not the media.

[Razgovory]

Okay since Hans has refuses to back up his initial claims and is now just posting shit from a guy from the American Spectator a right, wing magazine that pushed all sorts of conspiracy theories about Bill Clinton, I take this to mean he concedes that he is his statements are wrong and he knows they are wrong.

[Iormlund]

Ah, bullies. We had a couple of those. One got his ass kicked by a girl, the other died of heroine OD when he was 18 years old.

[11B4V]

Okay since Hans has refuses to back up his initial claims and is now just posting shit from a guy from the American Spectator a right, wing magazine that pushed all sorts of conspiracy theories about Bill Clinton, I take this to mean he concedes that he is his statements are wrong and he knows they are wrong.

Of course he does.

[garbon]

Ugh, Hunstman. The completely non-viable individual that people can wail over when they moan about our current crop.  Here's a hint - if you can't get the media to say anything about you, it doesn't matter how awesome your views are.

Huntsman was the media's candidate.  His problem was with voters not the media.

They didn't do very well then if no one knew who he was.

[garbon]

I guess I should clarify/refine my position in that I am not claiming that bullies are "good" or "correct" in what they do. They are dumb and primitive, but neither they are morally evil - just more "lower brain functions" in their social responses.

They pick victims who are socially "weak", e.g. have no friends to call on/are unpopular etc. I think anti-bullying actions should focus less on punishing these brutes and more on teaching children how to overcome these "weaknesses" - and where this does not happen, parents are usually to blame.

Does it sound more acceptable?

Then you'd say that parents should teach their children to reign in their gay tendencies (as that would naturally make them a target for bullies)?

[11B4V]

They pick victims who are socially "weak", e.g. have no friends to call on/are unpopular etc. I think anti-bullying actions should focus less on punishing these brutes and more on teaching children how to overcome these "weaknesses" - and where this does not happen, parents are usually to blame.

Does it sound more acceptable?

In the age of hover-mothers you're seeing a lot of kids whose, shall we say, "more sensitive aspects" of their personalities are being exasperated by their parents' inability to let them stand on their own two legs, to let them experience success or failure on their own terms and to learn from them.

This.

even the teachers are fucking flaky feel good everyone's a winner hippie

While were at it with those fucking lazy ass work for nine months wanting a class size of ten students with an early day once a week so they can go fuck off and call it teacher development and more money so the school can try and dupe the property owners with lame ass levies because they mismanage their budgets while having five minute round robin teacher/parent conferences and ask the student "well how do you think your doing" and I say if I wanted to know how my child's doing I would ask her myself so why don't you (teacher) tell me how she's doing then hire some flake superintendent only to fire her because she was corrupt then paying the twat a servence while finding out they shouldnt having hired her in the first place because she had bullshit pending in her former job.

FUCK YOU AND DO YOUR JOB YOU HIPPIE FUCKS.

[Admiral Yi]

FUCK YOU AND DO YOUR JOB YOU HIPPIE FUCKS.

LIKE TEACHING PUNCTUATION.

[11B4V]

FUCK YOU AND DO YOUR JOB YOU HIPPIE FUCKS.

LIKE TEACHING PUNCTUATION.

That too. Those fucks.