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Started by Habbaku, May 09, 2012, 12:14:59 PM

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Berkut

Quote from: Habbaku on June 25, 2012, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
You DID sit on your hands in respect to England

What should I have done, exactly?  Built a fleet to conquer England?

I think you know very well that France has a difficult time doing much about England while Spain has a very easy time of it and I am not sure why you continue to argue that France should expend everything possible in order vaguely worry England.

Uhhh, no, as someone who is playing Spain in two games, I don't think they have a "very easy time of it" at all. In fact, it seems rather difficult without *some* help from someone - especially of they want to actually do anything else in the game. What is more, absent an AV, Spain gets almost nothing from expending vast resources trying to keep England from racking up piracy VPs, and will of course lose the Netherlands in the process and those 3 keys.

Like I said, if you are right, and France doing anything about England is so difficult they should not even bother, and hence only Spain can do anything about them, while France does...what? Farm VPs from marriages and sponsoring and pirating themselves? then this isn't a very good game. I sure hope you are wrong.
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Habbaku

On that note, I think any conclusions about the game based on one game is a bit premature, at best.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Drakken

Quote from: Habbaku on June 25, 2012, 03:01:22 PM
Drakken, Dublin is a key and takes far fewer CPs to take than anything in France does.  Your argument is more than a little weak.

Contarily to your assumption that I am a dumbass, I have a very good reason for using Irish Rebellion as CP. And it will give the answer to your question above.

Habbaku

I know it's a Languish tradition to completely misrepresent someone's argument, but it's still pretty unconvincing when it happens.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Berkut

Quote from: Habbaku on June 25, 2012, 03:06:31 PM
I know it's a Languish tradition to completely misrepresent someone's argument, but it's still pretty unconvincing when it happens.

Quote from: HabsNo, clearly France and England are natural enemies and Spain is just supposed to sit on its hands.

Yeah, you're right - it is rather unconvincing.
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Habbaku

Quote from: Drakken on June 25, 2012, 03:05:11 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 25, 2012, 03:01:22 PM
Drakken, Dublin is a key and takes far fewer CPs to take than anything in France does.  Your argument is more than a little weak.

So, rather than perform an action that will not only gain you a key and two VPs, but also take 2 VPs from England and prevent them from winning, you've decided on a path that will get you some VPs (maybe) and let England win?

Yeah, not really seeing the strength of your plan, there, but since you're up, feel free to show me what I'm missing.

QuoteContarily to your assumption that I am a dumbass, I have a very good reason for using Irish Rebellion as CP. And it will give the answer to your question above.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Habbaku

I am not going to try and fix that on my phone.  :blurgh:
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Berkut

Quote from: Habbaku on June 25, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
QuoteSpain moves all Jesuits on the Spanish power card to unoccupied spaces in England. Spain may move one Jesuit that was already in England to a new space. This space may be occupied but it may not already contain a Jesuit. If any of these spaces that Jesuits are moving into are under Protestant religious influence, immediately convert it to Catholic religious influence.

To Spain to resolve.

Jesuit from York to Lincoln, convert Lincoln.

Jesuirt from PC to York, convert York
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Tamas

lol you guys are priceless.

You bicker on about who screwed up. The skillful play of ulmont does not even get mentioned.

Just admit it: he sailed (lulz) past you on the sideways while you embroiled yourself in what proved to be of secondary importance. He played better than us, and that's all there is to it.

Berkut

The only way I can drive English VPs down is trying to convert spaces in general.

If we can get Prot spaces down to 29, England will lose 1VP.
"If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention."

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Berkut

Quote from: Tamas on June 25, 2012, 03:14:06 PM
lol you guys are priceless.

You bicker on about who screwed up. The skillful play of ulmont does not even get mentioned.

Just admit it: he sailed (lulz) past you on the sideways while you embroiled yourself in what proved to be of secondary importance. He played better than us, and that's all there is to it.

Nah, I don't even think ulmont would make that argument.

We've all played enough of these game to tell when people make great play, or when they roll great dice and others make mistakes that let them drive ahead.

Ulmont is an excellent player, and there are lots of examples of his excellent play, but this was kind of obvious, I think.

It might even be something of a knock on the game - what else is there for England to really do?
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ulmont

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
It might even be something of a knock on the game - what else is there for England to really do?

Things I didn't do:

1) Enough artists and scientists.  On the other hand, I think Drake has better VP odds than they do on a per-CP basis.
2) Diplomatically influence Scotland / Ireland / Portugal.  I misunderstood the rules and thought the positions reset each turn, so I didn't think it was worth it.
3) Enough counter-espionage, apparently.  If I'm correct, Spain currently is rolling 13 dice against my 5 dice to automatically win the game with 4+ net hits.

Habbaku

Quote from: Berkut on June 25, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
The only way I can drive English VPs down is trying to convert spaces in general.

If we can get Prot spaces down to 29, England will lose 1VP.

I've been trying, but Garbon seems pretty uninterested in letting me.  Ditto Drakken.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Drakken


Berkut

Hmmm, I guess I am actually not that bad right now for an English Catholic Rebellion. Might have to give that a shot as well.
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