Democratic Primary; Anybody but Obama wins 40% + in 3 Southern States

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Valmy

Nuclear and Hydro are both cheaper but not really good replacements for coal for obvious reasons.

Gas used to be dirt cheap but not anymore.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 11, 2012, 10:30:37 AM
I thought gas was cheaper than coal.

Coal gets a lot of subsidies. IIRC oil gets the most. Not sure about natural gas.
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Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 11, 2012, 11:07:55 AM
I assume you're talking about clean generation tech R&D?

If he is talking about R&D than Nuclear would be #1 at least historically.  I think he means things like tax credits and the like.  Those big energy corps, like all big job creators, always have states falling over themselves to give them tax credits and other goodies.
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Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
If he is talking about R&D than Nuclear would be #1 at least historically.  I think he means things like tax credits and the like.  Those big energy corps, like all big job creators, always have states falling over themselves to give them tax credits and other goodies.

That makes no sense.  Manufacterers get those breaks because they can go anywhere people have hands.  Coal companies have to go to places that have coal.

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Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 11, 2012, 11:13:39 AM
That makes no sense.  Manufacterers get those breaks because they can go anywhere people have hands.  Coal companies have to go to places that have coal.

Feel free to address your puzzlement to the state governments. 
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Those big energy corps, like all big job creators, always have states falling over themselves to give them tax credits and other goodies.

The current energy sector companies like the coal industry is not a substantial job creator.  New energy sectors and the regulatory industry are where the jobs are being created:  by synergy.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2012, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Those big energy corps, like all big job creators, always have states falling over themselves to give them tax credits and other goodies.

The current energy sector companies like the coal industry is not a substantial job creator.  New energy sectors and the regulatory industry are where the jobs are being created:  by synergy.

Solyndra!!!!
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2012, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 11, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Those big energy corps, like all big job creators, always have states falling over themselves to give them tax credits and other goodies.

The current energy sector companies like the coal industry is not a substantial job creator.  New energy sectors and the regulatory industry are where the jobs are being created:  by synergy.

Solyndra!!!!

That dog won't hunt, son.

derspiess

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2012, 11:37:35 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
That dog won't hunt, son.

No shit.  Talk about a boondoggle :P

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derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 11, 2012, 11:49:22 AM
Well, you don't ever have to worry about it happening again.  The solar production industry is now squarely locked up by the Chinese.  HAPPY NOW

Yeah, actually.  I just bought a solar charger for my cellphone for dirt cheap.  Direct from China with free shipping :D
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on May 11, 2012, 11:52:05 AM
Yeah, actually.  I just bought a solar charger for my cellphone for dirt cheap.  Direct from China with free shipping :D

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OttoVonBismarck

Gas is cheaper than coal right now, I've heard places with natural gas power plants are paying sometimes as low as $0.035/kWh, around here with coal plants rates are as high as $0.06-0.11/kWH.