Guardian: Apple would still be highly profitable if production was in U.S.

[Valmy]

Last spring I got evaluations, one said "PDH was horrible, he is too liberal,"  another said "PDH is horrible, he is too conservative," while a third said "PDH was great, he even swore in classs."

Given that is the range of my foot soldiers, I will pass on revolution.

Maybe if you swore a bit more.

[mongers]

Last spring I got evaluations, one said "PDH was horrible, he is too liberal,"  another said "PDH is horrible, he is too conservative," while a third said "PDH was great, he even swore in classs."

Given that is the range of my foot soldiers, I will pass on revolution.

Maybe if you swore a bit more.

Now that's a sodding policy I can get behind. 

[garbon]

I'm continually amazed by the strength of the belief that government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating.

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

Well, I'm happy that I live in a country where we've mastered fire.

All Canadians keep their doors unlocked and none die in fires.

[Berkut]

Nah, I am not saying I am unwilling to take steps, I am experssing skepticism that the types of solutions generally proposed by government in the form of regulation and legislation are not likely to work. My resistance is purely practical, not ideological.

I do realize this is a bit of a bullshit position. I think there is a problem, but not only do I not have a solution, I am fundamentally skeptical of the very means by which a solution could be crafted even in theory.

I'm continually amazed by the strength of the belief that government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating.

Fallacy of generalization, I believe?

[The Brain]

Leftists are cute.

[Jacob]

I had planned a thread but that darn work stuff keeps interfering.
Short answer is financialization and deflation.  The latter has been influenced by globalization and offshoring but also by the rise of Eurozone and post-Volker hawkish orthodoxy at the Fed.

I'm looking forward to your work slowing down a bit so you can post that thread

... because your short answer is intriguing, but I'm pretty sure I don't really understand it 

[Jacob]

I'm continually amazed by the strength of the belief that government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating.

Fallacy of generalization, I believe?

If instead I said "I'm amazed at how frequently I hear a proposed solution through government action or policy dismissed not on the grounds of the substance of the solution or principle, but because it's expected that the government will mess it up anyhow through ineptitude or corruption" would that be more acceptable? If I swapped out the "inherently" with "most likely going to be" would that work?

I'm not really sure what you're objecting to, to be honest. Did I just misunderstand what you said?

[Berkut]

I'm continually amazed by the strength of the belief that government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating.

Fallacy of generalization, I believe?

If instead I said "I'm amazed at how frequently I hear a proposed solution through government action or policy dismissed not on the grounds of the substance of the solution or principle, but because it's expected that the government will mess it up anyhow through ineptitude or corruption" would that be more acceptable? If I swapped out the "inherently" with "most likely going to be" would that work?

I'm not really sure what you're objecting to, to be honest. Did I just misunderstand what you said?

I said I was skeptical of the ability of government to solve a pretty specific problem - said problem being enormously complex, very susceptible to unintended consequences when governments start meessing around with it, and very poorly understood, especially by those who would be taked with crafting the solution.

To extend that particular positions to "the belief that government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating." is just plain ridiculous. And certainly a fallacy.

What is more, it is an argument style that is simply beneath you. Trying to turn "Berkut is skeptical that government regulation and legislation can fix the problem os wealth inequality without doing more harm than good" with "Berkut apparently believes that government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating." is rather infantile. I never said anything of the kind. I think there are are incredible number of examples of effective government regulation, and to imply that I am some kind of....what, I don't even know what term would describe this fictional creature who believes something as ridiculous as "government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating." in the general sense. Anarchist?

[citizen k]

... I don't even know what term would describe this fictional creature who believes something as ridiculous as "government and government policy is inherently futile and self-defeating." in the general sense. Anarchist?

That would be the term, or perhaps "anarcho-libertarian".

[Razgovory]

Rothbardian or Anarcho-Capitalist.

[Razgovory]

Turns out I was correct.  I provided counter examples and was ignored.

[Neil]

Turns out I was correct.  I provided counter examples and was ignored.

That's because you're on so many ignore lists.

[Valmy]

That government can successfully regulate something?  Okay.  Take for example the Cuyahoga River.  It doesn't catch on fire anymore.  This is an improvement.  I doubt there are many people who claim that the Pure Food and Drug act did not improve food quality and the requirement that food and drugs had labels that helped consumers make better choices.

I am talking about the current state of our government right now.  That stuff happened a long time ago.  Heck the Pure Food and Drug act is from the Roosevelt administration...Teddy Roosevelt.

[Valmy]

Turns out I was correct.  I provided counter examples and was ignored.

You were on a previous page so I didn't see it.

[Berkut]

Turns out I was correct.  I provided counter examples and was ignored.

That's because you're on so many ignore lists.