This evening I got into an argument with some anarcho-syndicalists ,as you do.

Started by mongers, April 23, 2012, 07:14:24 PM

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crazy canuck

WCC, CHP, COR, WIP, WBP, SPA, WIPS - what are those.

As for Social Credit - they were, in the BC experience, the coalition party - hardly a splinter.  Reform was a true splinter and I will never forgive you for giving us all those years of Liberal rule.

Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 24, 2012, 02:01:46 PM
WCC, CHP, COR, WIP, WBP, SPA, WIPS - what are those.

As for Social Credit - they were, in the BC experience, the coalition party - hardly a splinter.  Reform was a true splinter and I will never forgive you for giving us all those years of Liberal rule.

Western Canada Concept
Christian Heritage Party
Confederation of Regions
Western Independence Party
Western Block Party
Separatist Party of Alberta
Western Independence Party of Saskatchewan (apparently a different one)

And SoCred shambles on in Alberta as yet another fringe right-wing party.  294 people voted SoCred yesterday. :Alberta:
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Barrister on April 24, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
Western Canada Concept
Christian Heritage Party
Confederation of Regions
Western Independence Party
Western Block Party
Separatist Party of Alberta
Western Independence Party of Saskatchewan (apparently a different one)

But those arent really what Mongers and I are talking about.  Those are simply fringe parties.  What Mongers is talking about are people that belonged to the same party, didnt like how the other person wore his lapel pin and started another party that had essentially the same platform, with the exception of how one wears their lapel pin.

ie - to the outside observer their differences are hard to understand or even identify. Which is what makes that Monty Python bit so great -  they get mixed up about who is who.

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 23, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 23, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
College students. Doesn't matter what the topic is.

I once got told by some Antioch college students that I'd be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Srsly.
Sadly, they probably didn't even know it was a literary reference.
PDH!

katmai

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 23, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 23, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
College students. Doesn't matter what the topic is.

I once got told by some Antioch college students that I'd be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Srsly.

The Vagina wall?
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

mongers

Seems the Social Part of Great Britain is in dispute with some johnny come latelys::

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The SPGB is vehemently anti-Leninist and currently fights to protect its identity against Socialist Party of England and Wales, the relatively new name of the Trotskyist former Militant tendency (in propaganda and publicity material the SPGB often styles itself simply The Socialist Party whilst SPEW uses Socialist Party (without the definite article) and contests elections as Socialist Alternative

Handy for us outside observers that we can tell them appart because one own 'The'.  :hmm:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Razgovory

Quote from: mongers on April 23, 2012, 07:14:24 PM

I won't bore you with the details, but I was fascinated to find another group with such an ossified, internally complex, version of what has happened, why stuff they wanted didn't happen and why it will all happen eventually anyway.  History to them seems to be some elaborate construct that proves their position today, rather than say something uncertain and up for debate, analysis or discussion. 


Sounds a little like Viking.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

Quote from: Razgovory on April 24, 2012, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: mongers on April 23, 2012, 07:14:24 PM

I won't bore you with the details, but I was fascinated to find another group with such an ossified, internally complex, version of what has happened, why stuff they wanted didn't happen and why it will all happen eventually anyway.  History to them seems to be some elaborate construct that proves their position today, rather than say something uncertain and up for debate, analysis or discussion. 


Sounds a little like Viking.

To be fair many of us on languish have our own 'pet' theories, some several more than others. 

Oh I forgot to say, at one point, the main anarcho guy started drawing is own ven diagram of how the world/20th century history fits into his idealogical view of the world.
Weirdly he had no idea that many people weren't interested or were finding it somewhat tedious.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Jacob

Quote from: mongers on April 24, 2012, 03:33:29 PM
Seems the Social Part of Great Britain is in dispute with some johnny come latelys::
QuoteThe SPGB is vehemently anti-Leninist and currently fights to protect its identity against Socialist Party of England and Wales, the relatively new name of the Trotskyist former Militant tendency (in propaganda and publicity material the SPGB often styles itself simply The Socialist Party whilst SPEW uses Socialist Party (without the definite article) and contests elections as Socialist Alternative
Handy for us outside observers that we can tell them appart because one own 'The'.  :hmm:

SPEW is a great acronym for a Trotskyist group.

Ed Anger

Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 24, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 23, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 23, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
College students. Doesn't matter what the topic is.

I once got told by some Antioch college students that I'd be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Srsly.

Do you think they're wrong, Mr. Vineyard and French villa owner?  :P

I was 21 and working in the K-mart electronics department at the time.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Octavian

Quote from: Ed Anger on April 24, 2012, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 24, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 23, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 23, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
College students. Doesn't matter what the topic is.

I once got told by some Antioch college students that I'd be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Srsly.

Do you think they're wrong, Mr. Vineyard and French villa owner?  :P

I was 21 and working in the K-mart electronics department at the time.

You monster!
If you let someone handcuff you, and put a rope around your neck, don't act all surprised if they hang you!

- Eyal Yanilov.

Forget about winning and losing; forget about pride and pain. Let your opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let him smash into your flesh and you fracture his bones; let him fracture your bones and you take his life. Do not be concerned with escaping safely - lay your life before him.

- Bruce Lee

Ed Anger

Quote from: Octavian on April 24, 2012, 04:40:52 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 24, 2012, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 24, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 23, 2012, 07:23:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on April 23, 2012, 07:21:56 PM
College students. Doesn't matter what the topic is.

I once got told by some Antioch college students that I'd be first against the wall when the revolution comes. Srsly.

Do you think they're wrong, Mr. Vineyard and French villa owner?  :P

I was 21 and working in the K-mart electronics department at the time.

You monster!

I did sell Zenith Televisions. :weep:
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Razgovory

Quote from: derspiess on April 24, 2012, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Jacob on April 24, 2012, 04:05:01 PM
SPEW is a great acronym for a Trotskyist group.

Why the hate?  At least they're not Republicans!

They may still be.  I seem to recall that the neocon movement had some Troskyist influence...
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

derspiess

"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall