Nomination Thread For Poll Of America's Greatest Foe.

[Malthus]

What about some of the great Native American leaders, like Techumseh, Joseph Brant or Geronimo?

[Viking]

The OP thread starter has specifically said no ACW bullshit, and I have endorsed it.

Now you and Timmay get it through your thick fucking retardo skulls already.

Well, he's wrong. More americans were killed in battle by the CSA than all it's other enemies combined iirc. It's like discussing the enemies of the Jews while leaving out Hitler.

Heh.  That is only true if you count the CSA soldiers as Americans.

I was under the impression that on the whole the CSA did not have the policy of killing it's own soldiers.

[PDH]

I was under the impression that on the whole the CSA did not have the policy of killing it's own soldiers.

Tell that to the soldiers under Bragg.

[Valmy]

I was under the impression that on the whole the CSA did not have the policy of killing it's own soldiers.

General Pickett disagrees.

But if you take out the CSA losses your statement is false.

[Viking]

I was under the impression that on the whole the CSA did not have the policy of killing it's own soldiers.

Tell that to the soldiers under Bragg.

Well played, sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1f3Hr03fQ

[Viking]

I was under the impression that on the whole the CSA did not have the policy of killing it's own soldiers.

General Pickett disagrees.

But if you take out the CSA losses your statement is false.

No, the statement remains true. At the time of making the statement my recollection of history was as I described it. Not being certain I did therefore add the "iirc" - interweb lingo for "if I remember correctly"

Though all this dissembling on how the CSA is an enemy opens up the nomination to Grant, Sherman, Sheridan and Thomas.

[Valmy]

Though all this dissembling on how the CSA is an enemy opens up the nomination to Grant, Sherman, Sheridan and Thomas.

There is no dissembling here.  People in the Civil War are not under consideration, because both sides were Americans.

[Viking]

Though all this dissembling on how the CSA is an enemy opens up the nomination to Grant, Sherman, Sheridan and Thomas.

There is no dissembling here.  People in the Civil War are not under consideration, because both sides were Americans.

Treasonous rebels in armed insurrection against the lawful government and constitution of the Uniteds states do not get to count as foes of america?

[jimmy olsen]

Though all this dissembling on how the CSA is an enemy opens up the nomination to Grant, Sherman, Sheridan and Thomas.

There is no dissembling here.  People in the Civil War are not under consideration, because both sides were Americans.

Rebels only get to be considered enemies if they win?

[Malthus]

Gah.

Why not just accept that, for whatever reason, the topic here is the non-Civil War enemies of America? 

[Sheilbh]

There is no dissembling here.  People in the Civil War are not under consideration, because both sides were Americans.

But they were traitors.  You were fighting a nation of Tokyo Rose.  If Washington counts for the Brits then Lee should count for the Americans.

[Valmy]

Gah.

Why not just accept that, for whatever reason, the topic here is the non-Civil War enemies of America? 

I guess the concept is just too complex or something.

[Valmy]

But they were traitors.  You were fighting a nation of Tokyo Rose.  If Washington counts for the Brits then Lee should count for the Americans.

Lee and the other Confederates are still considered national heroes despite the technical fact they were traitors.  I doubt there are too many statues of Washington in Blighty.

Any list of top American generals of all time is going to have guys like Longstree and Jackson and Lee.

[Sheilbh]

Lee and the other Confederates are still considered national heroes despite the technical fact they were traitors.  I doubt there are too many statues of Washington in Blighty.

Outside the National Gallery in Trafalgar Square

[PDH]

I doubt there are too many statues of Washington in Blighty.

There is one in London.

DAMN YOU SHEILBH