The Closing of the American Mind: 25 years on

[Razgovory]

Oh please.  Give it a rest.

You should be so lucky to live in America.  Most other countries have less than sterling mortality rates for Jewish intelligentsia.

HIV was manufactured in America.

We ought to make them pay royalties then.

[The Minsky Moment]

Oh please.  Give it a rest.

You should be so lucky to live in America.  Most other countries have less than sterling mortality rates for Jewish intelligentsia.

The old academy that Bloom implicitly romanticized kept Jews out through quota systems, while the Ivies filled their classes instead with WASPy Gentleman C Scholars whose principal merit was that daddy and granddaddy went there.

The post 60s academy has its flaws but is still an improvement what came before it.  That's the America I am lucky to live in.

[Malthus]

Cliff notes?

Certainly.

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words.

When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.

[citizen k]

Cliff notes?

Certainly.

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words.

When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.

I actually agree with Bloom, but that was an excellent summary.

[DGuller]

That poor Hesiod guy, he's never going to live that down. 

[garbon]

I don't know what this is.

[Ed Anger]

I don't know what this is.

You ain't the only one.

[Neil]

Hesiod's people were destroyed.  He was right.

[Sheilbh]

Also I really don't think Bloom's argument was as simplistically conservative as the reactions suggest.

[jimmy olsen]

Certainly.

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words.

When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.

Would a more modern translation be "exceedingly sarcastic"?

[citizen k]

Certainly.

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless
beyond words.

When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of
elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of
restraint.
--- Hesiod, Eighth Century B.C.

Would a more modern translation be "exceedingly sarcastic"?

No, he was saying the youth, much like today, think they know it all.