George Galloway Set For Sensational Return To House of Commons ?

[mongers]

Interesting how most of the political communtards are painting this as a disaster for Labour, but if you look at the figures it's a more complex picture:

Turnout - 7,671 fever people voted.

Respect  - 17,096 votes gained.

Labour - 10,200 votes lost

LibCon coalition - 13,119 votes between them lost.


The government coalition combined support got hammered, they retrained less than 25% of their former voters, to me this seems a bigger story than the failure of EdMilly's party. 

Even if you assume all 10,000 former labour votes shifted directly to Respect, and that Conservatives and Libdems accounted for all of the previous voters who decided to stay at home, then that still means more of them choose to then directly vote for Respect than to go with the government candidates, and by a margin 5450 to 4250 remaining loyalists.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Having reflected on it I think it is "a plague on both your houses".

The coalition are deeply unpopular, but then they are in the middle of doing many unpopular things (some of them necessary).

Labour's inability to turn this into huge percentage leads is unusual.

Unless the government commits suicide (quite possible given their recent incompetence) we will have the Scottish referendum before the next general election. I'd quite like to see some statesmanlike debate and illumination of the key issues before this vote takes place. I think that what we will get is a bunch of silly plonkers arsing around in pieshops, petrol forecourts and accusing each other of watering their lawns with hosepipes. Scotland might simply leave in a fit of pique, one could hardly blame them.

I find it all very depressing 

[Syt]

The coalition are deeply unpopular, but then they are in the middle of doing many unpopular things (some of them necessary).

Labour's inability to turn this into huge percentage leads is unusual.

It seems to be a common streak in some countries at the moment. "Yeah, the government totally sucks, but it's not like the opposition would do any better."

[Razgovory]

Having reflected on it I think it is "a plague on both your houses".

That is consistent with those 7,671 fever voters.

[mongers]

Having reflected on it I think it is "a plague on both your houses".

That is consistent with those 7,671 fever voters.

No its not, because I've discounted those in my model of possible voter behavior, and within that more of the remaining ConDem voters, decided to turn out and explicitly choose the 'far left' candidate than stay with the government.

Which gets back to my central point, its seems more significant than just a plague on all their houses type of discontent.
What my very unscientific, anecdotal evidence from canvasing people on the high streets indicates to me is that the way is now opening for 'populist' groups, but probably not right-wing, to make a mark on the English political landscape.

[Razgovory]

I think you missed the point Mongers.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Raz was making a joke mongers 

Peter Hitchens says he might stand :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2126562/George-Galloway-elected-I-said-Id-stand-MP--Well-Ive-changed-mind.html

I'm not sure about your "more significant" comment as you come to the same conclusion that I would regarding the opportunity for populist groups, mavericks and chancers.

[Neil]

Well, the government has to do some unpopular things, and that's going to make people angry.  On the other hand, it's impossible for any good, right-thinking person to vote for a party that would make a doofus like Ed Miliband the Prime Minister.  This should be a golden age for freaky fringe parties like the BNP and the assorted separatist scum.  If Oswald Mosley were alive today, he'd stand a fair chance of becoming Fuhrer.

[mongers]

Well, the government has to do some unpopular things, and that's going to make people angry.  On the other hand, it's impossible for any good, right-thinking person to vote for a party that would make a doofus like Ed Miliband the Prime Minister.  This should be a golden age for freaky fringe parties like the BNP and the assorted separatist scum.  If Oswald Mosley were alive today, he'd stand a fair chance of becoming Fuhrer.

Strangely enough and going to say "This"; you're right there's a significant political vacuum, someone of his caliber could pull off some startling election results.

Which was my beef with the Occupy movement, they pissed away a golden political opportunity and choose instead to spend 6 months in tents engage in internecine naval gazing. 

[Neil]

Well, the government has to do some unpopular things, and that's going to make people angry.  On the other hand, it's impossible for any good, right-thinking person to vote for a party that would make a doofus like Ed Miliband the Prime Minister.  This should be a golden age for freaky fringe parties like the BNP and the assorted separatist scum.  If Oswald Mosley were alive today, he'd stand a fair chance of becoming Fuhrer.

Strangely enough and going to say "This"; you're right there's a significant political vacuum, someone of his caliber could pull off some startling election results.

Which was my beef with the Occupy movement, they pissed away a golden political opportunity and choose instead to spend 6 months in tents engage in internecine naval gazing.

Yeah, but that was the whole point of the Occupy movement.  It was never based on ideas like justice, fairness or the public good.  Without a concrete set of political ideals to challenge liberalism, you won't fix the world.

[jimmy olsen]

I find myself uninterested as long as I can continue to import Jaffa Cakes.

[Ed Anger]

God, you are such a fucking moron sometimes.

[jimmy olsen]

It's just a joke, lighten up.