Trayvon Martin case: use of Stand Your Ground law or pursuit of a black teen?

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Caliga on April 04, 2012, 08:51:08 PM
What happened to the girl from those videos?  IIRC she was pretty hot. :)

Beat up mug, nice pooper.


Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Hey Speesh, how do you feel about editing in the pimp and ho montage at the beginning and ending?

Also that O'Keefe had the policed called on him by ACORN employees (the one who he talked to about human trafficking).  Or one employee who thought it was a practical joke and played along was edited to it give a sinister air.  And some were just plain lies.  Besides that, it was on the up and up.  There's a reason why Nobody at ACORN was charged.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 09:16:48 PM
Also that O'Keefe had the policed called on him by ACORN employees (the one who he talked to about human trafficking).  Or one employee who thought it was a practical joke and played along was edited to it give a sinister air.  And some were just plain lies.  Besides that, it was on the up and up.  There's a reason why Nobody at ACORN was charged.

Sure, the fact that several ACORN offices gave him the shine is common knowledge.

This is an indictment of O'Keefe if you think his video gives the false impression that 100% of ACORN staffers give advice on tax avoidance to pimps opening brothels filled with underage illegal immigrants.

It's also a defense of ACORN if you think that giving advice on tax avoidance to pimps opening brothels filled with underage illegal immigrants only one fourth of the time is pretty good.

Razgovory

Is it?  Is it common knowledge?  You said earlier that you thought only 10 seconds or so had been edited out. O'Keefe talked to a guy about human trafficking, and video taped this conversation.  He used that conversation as proof that ACORN was willing to help human traffickers when in fact as soon as he was out of the office the ACORN employee called the police on him.  That strikes me as extremely dishonest.  Before it the edited tapes were made known, the guy helping with human trafficking was the only story out there.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

I think it's common knowledge.

I've never heard about or seen the human trafficking tape.

Caliga

Does anyone not get that this O'Keefe guy was a slimy political operative?  I thought that was pretty obvious from day one.  Didn't he end up doing jail time for breaking into some Senator's office?
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Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 04, 2012, 09:33:16 PM
I think it's common knowledge.

I've never heard about or seen the human trafficking tape.

It's common knowledge and you don't know about it?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Caliga on April 04, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
Does anyone not get that this O'Keefe guy was a slimy political operative?  I thought that was pretty obvious from day one.  Didn't he end up doing jail time for breaking into some Senator's office?

Nah, I think he got away with it.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Razgovory on April 04, 2012, 09:37:27 PM
It's common knowledge and you don't know about it?

Yes.  There is something that is common knowledge and there is something I don't know about.

Razgovory

I can not prove or disprove if something is "common knowledge".  I can demonstrate that the videos were heavily edited sometimes to give the opposite impression of what actually happened.  I know at least some people don't know about it, cause you made me post a bunch of sources before you would accept it.  If you want a more in depth look, here is the government report http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1888_acorn_report.pdf  You compare the San Diego incident with the videos of O'Keefe made that can easily be found on the net.

Since you have taken it upon yourself to speak for Derspeiss with your iron clad deductions and such, why is one editing bad and the other not so bad?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

DGuller

Can you two please give it a rest?  This back and forth is so inane that it's not the least bit entertaining in any capacity.

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

Quote from: DGuller on April 04, 2012, 10:27:35 PM
Can you two please give it a rest?  This back and forth is so inane that it's not the least bit entertaining in any capacity.

I'm *This* close to a gottcha moment!  We've gone around and around and each circle I close in a little more.  Each new fact established forces Yi  further into the corner.  And you would rob me of it. :weep:  Just cause I cracked that I might kill you.  You know I wouldn't kill you DG, who else would laugh at my jokes?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

11B4V

"there's a long tradition of insulting people we disagree with here, and I'll be damned if I listen to your entreaties otherwise."-OVB

"Obviously not a Berkut-commanded armored column.  They're not all brewing."- CdM

"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017