Wasteland 2 Kickstarter

[Habbaku]

This assumes that we're talking about a 'modern game' that's meant to be huge and comes from a large publisher.  I would be very skeptical in believing that what they're after costs more than that these days.  Do you have proof to the contrary?

[Razgovory]

This assumes that we're talking about a 'modern game' that's meant to be huge and comes from a large publisher.  I would be very skeptical in believing that what they're after costs more than that these days.  Do you have proof to the contrary?

http://www.develop-online.net/news/33625/Study-Average-dev-cost-as-high-as-28m  two years ago, but should give you an idea.  I don't understand your second sentence.  Game development costs have exploded over the last decade.

My guess is that they hope to get some money to get the project off the ground and hope that a publisher will see it and pay for the rest.  I have no idea if that a sound strategy or not. 

We could use Jake's opinion here.  He knows this kind of thing better then any of us.

[Habbaku]

You pretty much proved my point for me, Raz.

From the article :

A study by entertainment analyst group M2 Research also puts development costs for single-platform projects at an averge of $10 million.

You're providing a chart that gives "average" development costs of "a multiplatform next-gen game."  Do you really think that a small studio such as the one that is working on Wasteland 2 is going to end up needing 20-odd million dollars for a game that will likely use dated graphics and be very story-reliant rather than effects-reliant?

It's entirely possible that their costs will balloon.  I'm merely leery of the idea that it will go far beyond the $5 million mark, at most.

What leads you to believe that it will exceed that or even approach the industry average?

[Razgovory]

You pretty much proved my point for me, Raz.

From the article :

A study by entertainment analyst group M2 Research also puts development costs for single-platform projects at an averge of $10 million.

You're providing a chart that gives "average" development costs of "a multiplatform next-gen game."  Do you really think that a small studio such as the one that is working on Wasteland 2 is going to end up needing 20-odd million dollars for a game that will likely use dated graphics and be very story-reliant rather than effects-reliant?

It's entirely possible that their costs will balloon.  I'm merely leery of the idea that it will go far beyond the $5 million mark, at most.

What leads you to believe that it will exceed that or even approach the industry average?

It also states that the cost of a single platform game averages 10 mil.  So I have no idea how my link "proved your point".  We actually don't know what sort of technology will be in the game, how many platforms it will be released on, or it's scope.

[Habbaku]

What leads you to believe that it will exceed that or even approach the industry average?

[Habbaku]

We actually don't know what sort of technology will be in the game, how many platforms it will be released on, or it's scope.

This isn't true at all.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/posts

At the $1.5 Million level we will be adding a Linux version along with the Mac OS X version.

From the rest of the Kickstarter page, it is obvious that the development is being done for PC only, at least at the outset.  It's possible that if they get an immense increase in funding, they might expand to other platforms I suppose.

[Razgovory]

At the onset.  Besides, if they are going to use Mac OS it'll be two platforms wouldn't it?  Who knows what the final product will be?  They don't even have a studio yet. The last time someone made something like this, It was Troika with The Temple of Elemental Evil.  Troika went bankrupt shortly after.  That was nearly a decade ago.

Don't get me wrong, if they make this I'll likely buy it.  But these things tend to be expensive. You need staff, an office, lawyers, etc.  I don't think this is going to be Dwarf Fortress with two crazy brothers living off Shasta.

[ulmont]

Don't get me wrong, if they make this I'll likely buy it.  But these things tend to be expensive. You need staff, an office, lawyers, etc.  I don't think this is going to be Dwarf Fortress with two crazy brothers living off Shasta.

Yeah, but on the flip side, Brian Fargo founded Interplay, so he ought to know what these things cost.

[Razgovory]

Don't get me wrong, if they make this I'll likely buy it.  But these things tend to be expensive. You need staff, an office, lawyers, etc.  I don't think this is going to be Dwarf Fortress with two crazy brothers living off Shasta.

Yeah, but on the flip side, Brian Fargo founded Interplay, so he ought to know what these things cost.

That's why I think he hoping that a publisher will pick up the rest of the tab.

[ulmont]

Don't get me wrong, if they make this I'll likely buy it.  But these things tend to be expensive. You need staff, an office, lawyers, etc.  I don't think this is going to be Dwarf Fortress with two crazy brothers living off Shasta.

Yeah, but on the flip side, Brian Fargo founded Interplay, so he ought to know what these things cost.

That's why I think he hoping that a publisher will pick up the rest of the tab.

I think he's hoping to make a kind of game that doesn't require millions.  If you read the interviews and whatnot, they're going for a top-down game without much voice-over, so keeping costs down wherever possible.

[Strix]

Wasteland was awesome. That Bunny Master kicked my ass more than once.

[Pedrito]

Wasteland 2 is out today.

It's a 21 GB download 

L.

[Scipio]

9 for me. Where did you get it from? Or is that including all the extras?

[Pedrito]

When I first started the download, Steam asked for 21 GB of free disk space, but now it's 9.3 for me, too 

No extras, it's the standard version, acquired as a reward for pledging money for Torment: Tides of Numenera.

L.

[Caliga]

Is it any good?  I played the shit out of the original Wasteland back in my C64 days.