McCain calls for US-led airstrikes on Assad forces

[CountDeMoney]

Hmm.  How many damned wars would we be fighting right now if McCain had become prez?

Georgia had settled down by election day, so probably two.

Which one would be the other one, because I don't think Johnny Skyhawk would've surrounded himself with the same anti-Saddamites as Bush did.  He would've been too busy leveling Afghanistan into surplus driveway gravel.

Edit: Nevermind, I was thinking about 2000, when he truly had a chance to be a great American President, not 2008.

[Darth Wagtaros]

I liked McCain in2000.  It is a tragedy he was not elected over Gore or Bush.

[Razgovory]

Concur.  Were it not for Iraq we would have had a much stronger hand against Iran.  We would have toasted their nuclear facilities years ago.

[CountDeMoney]

I liked McCain in2000.  It is a tragedy he was not elected over Gore or Bush.

Yes, yes it is.

[Razgovory]

Actually, I got caught up in the McCain mania back then.  I really liked his talk on Campaign Finance reform.  Coming from a political family and seeing more fund raisers then I cared to remember somewhat influenced me.

[Sheilbh]

Hmm.  How many damned wars would we be fighting right now if McCain had become prez?

Georgia had settled down by election day, so probably two.

He'd stick to SOFA so Iraq's gone.  Afghanistan, Syria and he wanted more on Libya too.  He also called for increased military involvement in Yemen - but not intervention - I think it was more counter-terrorism.  So if we discount Iraq, Yemen and Iran we're up to four countries he's wanted to intervene or increase the military presence in but possibly up to five or six.

[Admiral Yi]

He'd stick to SOFA so Iraq's gone.  Afghanistan, Syria and he wanted more on Libya too.  He also called for increased military involvement in Yemen - but not intervention - I think it was more counter-terrorism.  So if we discount Iraq, Yemen and Iran we're up to four countries he's wanted to intervene or increase the military presence in but possibly up to five or six.

Libya's already wrapped up.  I was counting Syria and Iran.  Afghanistan I'd forgotten about, that makes three.

[DGuller]

Whatever Obama is doing at the time, pick the opposite.  How shrewd.

I think McCain is a much stronger war hawk than he is an Obama basher.  This has nothing to do with Obama, McCain just really likes advocating wars.

[Sheilbh]

Libya's already wrapped up.  I was counting Syria and Iran.  Afghanistan I'd forgotten about, that makes three.

McCain wanted more in Libya.  Given that the way the countries gone and is going I don't think it would be wrapped up yet.

[mongers]

Hmm.  How many damned wars would we be fighting right now if McCain had become prez?

Georgia had settled down by election day, so probably two.

Really, my view is if they'd been any more confrontational with the Russians then it would have been a prelude to WW3.

Docking that coast guard vessel with relief supplies and flying some more in via the airport was most they could do, short of flying in troops to Tbilisi to 'stop' the Russians taking the city.

[mongers]

Back on topic, is anyone at all optimistic about what might happen in Syria ?

The rest of this year is going to be a bloody time in Syria.

I can't foresee any policy that's going to significantly affect the amount of fighting/slaughter. 

I find the position of many on the left, that intervention or what is happening now is caused by western imperialism, as bizarre as the fewer siren calls from the right for air strikes and fuller military backing for the rebels.

[MadImmortalMan]

I think they'll blow it like Egypt did. Possibly become a different sort of Iranian puppet than they are now.

[Sheilbh]

I think they'll blow it like Egypt did. Possibly become a different sort of Iranian puppet than they are now.

What do you mean by Egypt blew it?

[derspiess]

I think McCain is a much stronger war hawk than he is an Obama basher.  This has nothing to do with Obama, McCain just really likes advocating wars.

Correct.

[derspiess]

Back on topic, is anyone at all optimistic about what might happen in Syria ?

The rest of this year is going to be a bloody time in Syria.

I can't foresee any policy that's going to significantly affect the amount of fighting/slaughter.

I find the position of many on the left, that intervention or what is happening now is caused by western imperialism, as bizarre as the fewer siren calls from the right for air strikes and fuller military backing for the rebels.

Seal it off & let them fight it out.  I think the West is damned if we intervene & possibly damned if we don't.  Safest thing is to do nothing.  Whomever prevails will hate us, so to hell with both sides.