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[jimmy olsen]

Although it's not really the Dominion of Canada, and republicans like viper who feel that the US has an example to offer us just like to get riled up about that sort of thing.

Without a particular legal relation to the UK, you're not a Dominion.

Reminds me of my grandfather.  He was called Oscar all his life.  But his birth name was Edgar.  Up until his death, to the government, he was Edgar.

So, unless you make it official, simply calling yourself "Canada" does not change anything, we're still in the (British) Dominion of Canada and your government truly wants to remind us at every turn that we're still a colony.

Terrible analogy, almost Martinus-esque.  A 'domionion' isn't just a word, but a description of a particular political relationship to the UK.

But it is also a term of oppression.

Not necessarily.  You only see that because of your victim complex.

Or mocking viper.

You're free to move to Canada any time  
Our government gives you free Queen portrait once you become a subject of her majesty the Queen of England.

A portrait of her when she was young and hot or old and wrinkly?

[Razgovory]

You realize you are going to lose on this right?

It's easy to claim the British colonies did so much better when you only count occidental countries like Australia and Canada and systematically exclude the failures like Zimbabwe, or forget the Apartheid of South Africa.
I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

And it's impossible to tell how Canada would have turned as a French colony.

I was under the impression the French weren't all that interested in it.  A few acres of snow and all that.  Perhaps a more fruitful example would be the Caribbean where both French and Britain had colonies (as well as the Dutch and Spanish).

On the other hand, Britain was more wealthy then France.  Still is I think.

[Barrister]

It's easy to claim the British colonies did so much better when you only count occidental countries like Australia and Canada and systematically exclude the failures like Zimbabwe, or forget the Apartheid of South Africa.
I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

And it's impossible to tell how Canada would have turned as a French colony.

Actually it is easier than that. Where are the French equivalents of the US, Canada and Australia?

Well, no.  It's not that easy.  Since the French equivalent of the US, Canada, and Australia was Quebec - which was captured by the English in 1756.

Which is why my article about Cameroon was interesting - it accounts for almost all other variables, and shows the English part of the colony had a better outcome.

[Barrister]

I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

Well then have I got a link for you!

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/03/the_post_colonial_hangover

The TL;DR version - present day Cameroon has parts that were formerly British, and parts that were formerly French.  The British parts are doing noticeably better, although the article suggests it may be merely that the Brits were "less damaging" than the French - not that they were actually a net positive.

Bumping for Viper.

[Razgovory]

It's easy to claim the British colonies did so much better when you only count occidental countries like Australia and Canada and systematically exclude the failures like Zimbabwe, or forget the Apartheid of South Africa.
I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

And it's impossible to tell how Canada would have turned as a French colony.

Actually it is easier than that. Where are the French equivalents of the US, Canada and Australia?

Well, no.  It's not that easy.  Since the French equivalent of the US, Canada, and Australia was Quebec - which was captured by the English in 1756.

Which is why my article about Cameroon was interesting - it accounts for almost all other variables, and shows the English part of the colony had a better outcome.

Well they had those little islands in the Caribbean.  The US, Canada and Australia had a different dynamic then Cameroon or Nigeria or India.  In the former case the native populations were essentially removed and was the country was resettled.   Not so much for places like Burma or Vietnam.

[garbon]

It's easy to claim the British colonies did so much better when you only count occidental countries like Australia and Canada and systematically exclude the failures like Zimbabwe, or forget the Apartheid of South Africa.
I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

And it's impossible to tell how Canada would have turned as a French colony.

Actually it is easier than that. Where are the French equivalents of the US, Canada and Australia?

Well, no.  It's not that easy.  Since the French equivalent of the US, Canada, and Australia was Quebec - which was captured by the English in 1756.

Which is why my article about Cameroon was interesting - it accounts for almost all other variables, and shows the English part of the colony had a better outcome.

Have you gone viper? I'm not sure why it would make since to look at the 18th century - especially when colonialism was still in vogue then.  If one looks at Quebec, its pretty clear it still has miles (kilometers?) to go to match Anglo Canada/US/Australia.

[viper37]

A portrait of her when she was young and hot or old and wrinkly?

old and wrinkly.  But it's worth a fortune in English Canada, they can never get enough :p

[viper37]

If one looks at Quebec, its pretty clear it still has miles (kilometers?) to go to match Anglo Canada/US/Australia.

how so?  By wich criterias do you determine that?

[viper37]

I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

Well then have I got a link for you!

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/03/the_post_colonial_hangover

The TL;DR version - present day Cameroon has parts that were formerly British, and parts that were formerly French.  The British parts are doing noticeably better, although the article suggests it may be merely that the Brits were "less damaging" than the French - not that they were actually a net positive.

Bumping for Viper.

You want me to read a 55 pages document just for arguing on-line... ?
Gee, it'll take a while.

[Barrister]

I just don't see much difference between an ex-British colony in Africa and an ex-French colony in Africa.

Well then have I got a link for you!

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/03/the_post_colonial_hangover

The TL;DR version - present day Cameroon has parts that were formerly British, and parts that were formerly French.  The British parts are doing noticeably better, although the article suggests it may be merely that the Brits were "less damaging" than the French - not that they were actually a net positive.

Bumping for Viper.

You want me to read a 55 pages document just for arguing on-line... ?
Gee, it'll take a while.

Well, no - I didn't read the whole article.

But I did read the summary and thought it was very interesting.   

[Valmy]

Have you gone viper? I'm not sure why it would make since to look at the 18th century - especially when colonialism was still in vogue then.  If one looks at Quebec, its pretty clear it still has miles (kilometers?) to go to match Anglo Canada/US/Australia.

Alot less oil in Quebec for one.

[Barrister]

A portrait of her when she was young and hot or old and wrinkly?

Hot?

[Razgovory]

A portrait of her when she was young and hot or old and wrinkly?

old and wrinkly.  But it's worth a fortune in English Canada, they can never get enough :p

Would the situation be better of Canada had it's very own sitting queen all to itself?

[Ed Anger]

They have Buddy from Kids in the Hall  as their queen.



There is my quota of Canadian content for this month Beeb.

[Malthus]

A portrait of her when she was young and hot or old and wrinkly?

Hot?

Eh, a coupla drinks and she'd be hot enough - even without the crown.