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Started by jimmy olsen, February 19, 2012, 06:45:58 AM

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Darth Wagtaros

PDH!

garbon

Actually as an aside/addendum to what I posted earlier I guess it is things like this that then make it easy to distance oneself.  I can't think of book being burnt that should result in deadly protests - no matter how stupid or misguided the instigating act.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-apologizes-karzai-over-bagram-koran-burnings-152220870.html

QuotePresident Obama apologized Thursday in a letter to Afghan President Hamid Karzai for the burning of Korans at the largest American military base in Afghanistan, according to the White House and Karzai's office. The incident at Bagram Air Base has fueled days of angry protests in the war-torn country.

"I wish to express my deep regret for the reported incident," Karzai's office quoted Obama as saying in the message. "The error was inadvertent; I assure you that we will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, to include holding accountable those responsible."

Three days of protests over the incident have left 14 people dead, including two American soldiers shot dead when an Afghan soldier turned his weapon on them at their base in Khogyani in eastern Nangarhar province, district governor Mohammad Hassan told AFP.

White House officials declined to challenge the wording.

US Ambassador Ryan Crocker delivered the letter to Karzai on Thursday afternoon, local time, according to US National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Obama "expressed our regret and apologies over the incident in which religious materials were unintentionally mishandled at Bagram Airbase," Vietor said in an emailed statement.

The incident, which occurred on Tuesday, led the Taliban to call on Afghans to retaliate against the US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan and drew a stern rebuke from Karzai himself earlier this week.
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Ideologue

What we should try is burning more Korans, and get out of the way.  See what happens.
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Eddie Teach

Maybe take planes full of Korans and light them before tossing them out.
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Crazy_Ivan80

it's Hama all over again, as anyone with half a brain should have known from the start.

citizen k

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on February 25, 2012, 04:28:03 AM
it's Hama all over again, as anyone with half a brain should have known from the start.


It won't end like Hama.


Neil

Why should Assad relent even an inch?  He won't get a comfortable exile somewhere nice in Europe, as the West is going on about how they'll be sure to super-punish him.  The West made diplomacy personal, which is why they failed.
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Darth Wagtaros

Yeah, he has no choice but to either put the pistol in his mouth himself or wait for one of his crew to do it in the hopes of buying his own freedom. 
PDH!

Razgovory

Quote from: citizen k on February 25, 2012, 05:19:59 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on February 25, 2012, 04:28:03 AM
it's Hama all over again, as anyone with half a brain should have known from the start.


It won't end like Hama.

Yeah, people are paying attention to this one. The regime doesn't have as much control of the armed forces as they did back in the 1980's. Also, I think Homs is bigger then Hama.
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Neil

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 25, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Yeah, he has no choice but to either put the pistol in his mouth himself or wait for one of his crew to do it in the hopes of buying his own freedom.
Or he could eliminate the rebellion.
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Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Neil on February 26, 2012, 12:32:59 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 25, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Yeah, he has no choice but to either put the pistol in his mouth himself or wait for one of his crew to do it in the hopes of buying his own freedom.
Or he could eliminate the rebellion.
At this point I don't see him being able to do that.  The elite military is Alawite, but there are enough armed Sunnis who won't wanna blast away at their co-religionists due to orders from secular-socialist fake Moslems.  Kinda like the situation in the US under Obama.
PDH!

Razgovory

Quote from: Neil on February 26, 2012, 12:32:59 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 25, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Yeah, he has no choice but to either put the pistol in his mouth himself or wait for one of his crew to do it in the hopes of buying his own freedom.
Or he could eliminate the rebellion.

I think this is very likely.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Darth Wagtaros

Quote from: Razgovory on February 26, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 26, 2012, 12:32:59 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 25, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Yeah, he has no choice but to either put the pistol in his mouth himself or wait for one of his crew to do it in the hopes of buying his own freedom.
Or he could eliminate the rebellion.

I think this is very likely.
It's the opposite of likely.
PDH!

Razgovory

Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 26, 2012, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on February 26, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 26, 2012, 12:32:59 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on February 25, 2012, 02:34:21 PM
Yeah, he has no choice but to either put the pistol in his mouth himself or wait for one of his crew to do it in the hopes of buying his own freedom.
Or he could eliminate the rebellion.

I think this is very likely.
It's the opposite of likely.

Oh?  Why?  Assad has a small, but well armed and organized base.  I think they are perfectly capable of putting down the rebellion.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017