Marines posed with flag resembling Nazi SS logo in Afghanistan

Started by FunkMonk, February 09, 2012, 04:08:36 PM

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Quote from: Razgovory on February 11, 2012, 08:00:55 PM
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Quote from: Martinus on February 11, 2012, 07:37:52 PM
For the record, I wasnt personally offended either, except by sheer stupidity.

Again, they are Marines. They are the military people who are *supposed* to actually be as dim as you think all military people to be... :P
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I'm rather bored with it myself.........."US MARINES ARE NOT VERY SENSITIVE SHOCK! HORROR!"..................meh   :glare:

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Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 11, 2012, 08:58:13 PM
We are living in a Golden Age of sensitivity.

I'm rather bored with it myself.........."US MARINES ARE NOT VERY SENSITIVE SHOCK! HORROR!"..................meh   :glare:

That's not even the issue.  The fact is that the Marine Scout Snipers have used this image for years, without anyone (including them) thinking they were using Nazi symbology (mostly because they are very, very low-key, and until the development of social media no one outside the fraternity even knew that there was a unit known as the "SS").

They also use the "Death's Head" (with a bullet hole in the forehead) - and sometimes, the skull is used with crossed bones, so they are insensitive enough to support pirates!  :pirate
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Quote from: Berkut on February 11, 2012, 08:52:14 PM
Again, they are Marines. They are the military people who are *supposed* to actually be as dim as you think all military people to be... :P

They are naval personnel, and not "military" at all.

Naval:  Navy and Marine Corps
Military:  Army (and, sorta, Air Force)

No marines normally come from the United States Military Academy at West Point.

(Just bustin' yer chops, of course, except that an actual Marine objects to "military" like he does "soldier" - Marines are weird that way)
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Quote from: Berkut on February 11, 2012, 08:52:14 PM
Quote from: Martinus on February 11, 2012, 07:37:52 PM
For the record, I wasnt personally offended either, except by sheer stupidity.

Again, they are Marines. They are the military people who are *supposed* to actually be as dim as you think all military people to be... :P

Sure. However, the whole argument here started when you came into the thread and announced that this looks nothing like the SS logo and people are seeing things that are not there.  :P

It never was about "OMG this is so offensive!!!!!" for most (all?) people who posted - it was about this being stupid.

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Quote from: Tyr on February 12, 2012, 04:40:49 AM
Quote from: dps on February 10, 2012, 01:04:46 AM
They aren't soldiers.  They're Marines.
Marines aren't soldiers?

Not according to them, they are Marines.  See what grumbler said above about them not even being 'military'.


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Quote from: Tyr on February 12, 2012, 04:40:49 AM
Quote from: dps on February 10, 2012, 01:04:46 AM
They aren't soldiers.  They're Marines.
Marines aren't soldiers?
They are Marines.  I understand you could start a bar fight by calling them soldiers. 
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Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 08:56:23 AM
They are just guys that made a flag using symbology that they have seen other scout sniper units use in the past.

you're an asset, grumbler. did not know that other ss units (:P) had used it in the past

CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 10:02:20 PM
and until the development of social media no one outside the fraternity even knew that there was a unit known as the "SS").

What, nobody read or saw Jarhead?

dps

Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2012, 10:06:11 PM
(Just bustin' yer chops, of course, except that an actual Marine objects to "military" like he does "soldier" - Marines are weird that way)

Well, not just that way.