Crushing unemployment among the young people in the EU

[Barrister]

Clearly Europe needs to invest in developing their oil sands.

[Iormlund]

That is just crazy.  How the F does that happen?

There is an aging population with smaller cadres coming of age behind them combined with early retirement ages...so the number of jobs must be collapsing at really fast rate for this to happen.  I mean when people retire do they just cut the job and move forward?  Does Europe just not require workers at all?

There's another factor affecting youth unemployment: two-tiered systems, where older workers are impossible to get rid of while new employees are very cheap (often free) to fire. So when the downturn comes older, less productive workers are kept and young employees get the axe.

[MadImmortalMan]

Wait, this does NOT include students? Wow.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Its those inflexible labour markets that you keep on hearing about in action. The converse is that surprisingly few established workers have lost their jobs (speaking for the UK, there are probably as many stories as countries).

The problem for an unemployed young person in the UK is how to keep busy during the downturn so that a life of unemployment is avoided. Tyr going off to Japan is part of that tradition, during the early 80s many of my friends taught English in the Sudan, kids have it easy these days 

[derspiess]

The solution is to make it even more difficult to fire or lay off older workers.  If they sat in that chair for 15 years, it should be guaranteed to them regardless of performance



edit: shit, I should have read page 2 before I posted my smartass yet insightful remark 

[szmik]

black/grey market is what keeps European economy afloat 

[Iormlund]

Wait, this does NOT include students? Wow.

And the definition of 'students' is very broad. Here it includes, for example, those that are participating in one of the myriad recycling courses offered through the unemployment office or various unions/employer associations. And that's only one way of cooking the numbers.

So reality is actually worse than these figures.

[Ideologue]

Its those inflexible labour markets that you keep on hearing about in action. The converse is that surprisingly few established workers have lost their jobs (speaking for the UK, there are probably as many stories as countries).

The problem for an unemployed young person in the UK is how to keep busy during the downturn so that a life of unemployment is avoided.

Is "terrorist" an occupation, or just does it only count as volunteer work?

[Ed Anger]

I don't hire young people. Unless they are veterans.

[HVC]

I don't hire young people. Unless they are veterans.

What do you consider young?

[Razgovory]

Niemcy?  WTF?

Slavic term for Germans.  Means something like "foreigner" or "mute"  Similar to the Germanic root "Walla", which can be found in Wales, Waloons, Walachia.

[Martinus]

That is just crazy.  How the F does that happen?

There is an aging population with smaller cadres coming of age behind them combined with early retirement ages...so the number of jobs must be collapsing at really fast rate for this to happen.  I mean when people retire do they just cut the job and move forward?  Does Europe just not require workers at all?

There's another factor affecting youth unemployment: two-tiered systems, where older workers are impossible to get rid of while new employees are very cheap (often free) to fire. So when the downturn comes older, less productive workers are kept and young employees get the axe.

That's largely responsible but not the only reason. For example in my line of work people are more frequently hired on the basis of consultancy agreements (that are easier to terminate) but still you see the same phenomenon - that's because it pays off more for firms to keep experienced, older workers than to hire and train new people.

And because of the crisis, from 2008 firms almost stopped hiring new people, which result in the growing unemployment. More worrisome, even during the temporary pick up of 2011, firms would prefer to hire fresh graduates than people who graduated in, say, 2008 and haven't worked since then - now that 2012 looks a bit bleaker again, they stopped hiring again. So you are going eventually to end up with this "lost generation" of people who have not worked since 2008 or so - I wonder how the societies are going to deal with this problem eventually.

[Ed Anger]

I don't hire young people. Unless they are veterans.

What do you consider young?

24 and under. 25 seems to be the age in which the fucknuts snap out of their stupid shit, buckle down and grow the fuck up.

[Martinus]

Niemcy?  WTF?

Slavic term for Germans.  Means something like "foreigner" or "mute"  Similar to the Germanic root "Walla", which can be found in Wales, Waloons, Walachia.

Yeah, it means something like "mute" or "not of the speech". Since Slavic languages are similar and broadly understandable to each other, Germans were the first people Slavs met who spoke some gibberish.

[DGuller]

Niemcy?  WTF?

In Russian, "Niemcy" means Germans.  But actual Germany as a country is "Germania".