Korea- Too boring

[CountDeMoney]

I don't think I could ever just abandon a pet like that.

I couldn't.  But BB's a heartless bastard.

Most Humane Society facilities are no-kill facilities, but not all, Ide.  Do your research.

[CountDeMoney]

I doubt that, I had a friend bring back a dog she adopted in Okinawa.  Just lots of paperwork.

Cats =/ dogs.  Different protocols.

Edit: just looked it up.  Looks like a paperwork headache, like Tonitrus says.

Although, I've heard stories about quarantine down at BWI;  not a happy place for a pet.

[Ideologue]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I need not worry about it.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the relocation of your pet(s) from South
Carolina to Korea.  According to the information you have given, I estimate the
Pet Express move to be approximately $ 5295.00.

Oh my fucking God, you've got to be fucking kidding me.  That's literally more than people cost.

Maybe I accidentally hit DPRK and they've included the charge for fighter escort and anti-air suppression.

[lustindarkness]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I need not worry about it.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the relocation of your pet(s) from South
Carolina to Korea.  According to the information you have given, I estimate the
Pet Express move to be approximately $ 5295.00.

Oh my fucking God, you've got to be fucking kidding me.  That's literally more than people cost.
Maybe I accidentally hit DPRK and they've included the charge for fighter escort and anti-air suppression.

Trafficking people is illegal. 

[Jacob]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I need not worry about it.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the relocation of your pet(s) from South
Carolina to Korea.  According to the information you have given, I estimate the
Pet Express move to be approximately $ 5295.00.

Oh my fucking God, you've got to be fucking kidding me.  That's literally more than people cost.

Maybe I accidentally hit DPRK and they've included the charge for fighter escort and anti-air suppression.

I'm guessing you were looking at some service that takes care of everything for you - paperwork, flight, quarantine if necessary, and so on. It's probably geared to people who are relocating with their expenses paid and don't care about the cost.

If you're dealing with everything yourself, I don't think it'll cost you more than a few hundred bucks for each (though that may still be too much). It varies a fair bit between airlines, so it's worthwhile to check with each of the airlines if/ when you start seriously considering bringing your cats.

Asiana is one of the Korean airlines (flying out of Chicago, New York and the West Coast). When I googeled their name it seemed to imply that you could fly with the pet in a crate stowed under the seat in front of you; obviously that would only work for one cat. However, it seems that you can't do that on "very long flights" which a trip to Korea most likely would be.

In any case, here are some tips on traveling with animals: http://www.pettravel.com/news_pet_travel_airline_cargo.cfm

[Jacob]

Just looking around some more...

On Asiana the cost of shipping the pet with you from the East Coast of the US is $150. It's basically charged as extra luggage on a per piece basis, if I read it correctly.

http://au.flyasiana.com/Global/AU/en/homepage?fid=INFO17430

Piece System: Both PETC and AVIH will be charged 200% of excess baggage charge per one way. Click to go to Excess Baggage Charge
Weight System: Total Weight (including cage) X 1.5% of normal one way economy fare.
For more information please contact our Reservation Specialist.

http://au.flyasiana.com/Global/AU/en/homepage?fid=INFO15300

Download the appropriate forms here: http://au.flyasiana.com/Global/AU/en/homepage?fid=INFO18300

I haven't looked at the other airlines, but I expect the policies to be more or less the same. You'll want to try to fly direct if at all possible, I think.

[MadImmortalMan]

Yeah but what about customs?


I know if I tried to bring my cat to the UK, he would have to be in quarantine for six months or something like that.

[Jacob]

Ide might try writing an email to the Korean embassy with his question: [email protected] - other than that, I'm sure there must be some expat communities out there with practical experience on the process.

Some other links on the process:

http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com/bringing-pets-to-south-korea
http://www.petrelocation.com/resources/international-regulations/south-korea

It seems to me that pets just need general veterinarian paperwork, and nothing more.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask the airlines if they know anything about the subject.

As for bringing them back, it seems like it shouldn't be a big problem either. Basically, it sounds like they look at the cat and if looks healthy you're fine. If not, you'll have to pay for a vet to look at it and declare that it has no communicable diseases. You should probably have microchips and rabies shots and all the usual good pet owner stuff sorted, though.

http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/pets.html

[Caliga]

P.S.: I don't like my speaking voice much.  

Why not?  Sounds fine to me.

[Ideologue]

I sound a little goofy.  Not authoritative enough.

Jake: thanks for the links, I'll check 'em out.  I'd looked into the paperwork for getting animals into the RoK, it doesn't seem ridiculous (well, not moreso than I expected--I'm sure every cat in Korea is perfectly healthy, and my indoor cats who have never seen another animal in three years, other than a couple dozen humans, each other, and a dog, are some sort of apocalyptic vector akin to a smallpox-ridden blanket).

[Ideologue]

OK, I'm reading Title IV of the College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007 (Public Service Loan Forgiveness).

(B) Public service job.--The term `public service
                job' means--
                          ``(i) a full-time job in emergency management,
                      government, military service, public safety, law
                      enforcement, public health, public education
                      (including early childhood education), social work
                      in a public child or family service agency, public
                      interest law services (including prosecution or
                      public defense or legal advocacy in low-income
                      communities at a nonprofit organization), public
                      child care, public service for individuals with
                      disabilities, public service for the elderly,
                      public library sciences, school-based library
                      sciences and other school-based services, or at an
                      organization that is described in section
                      501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and
                      exempt from taxation under section 501(a) of such
                      Code; or

I'm noting carefully they say nothing about American public education.

I'm noting carefully how "government" is singled out in that list, meaning that even if "government" means "American government or subordinate state government" it is in a different set that "public education," which my prospective school certainly is, being administered and funded by a county government, just not one of our county governments.

The cockblocks in the Department of Education, meanwhile:

Public service organization means:
(1) A Federal, State, local, or Tribal
government organization, agency, or
entity;
(2) A public child or family service
agency;
(3) A non-profit organization under
section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue
Code that is exempt from taxation
under section 501(a) of the Internal
Revenue Code;
(4) A Tribal college or university; or
(5) A private organization that—
(i) Provides the following public services:
Emergency management, military
service, public safety, law enforcement,
public interest law services, early
childhood education (including licensed
or regulated child care, Head Start,
and State funded pre-kindergarten),
public service for individuals with disabilities
and the elderly, public health
(including nurses, nurse practitioners,
nurses in a clinical setting, and fulltime
professionals engaged in heath
care practitioner occupations and
health care support occupations, as
such terms are defined by the Bureau
of Labor Statistics), public education,
public library services, school library
or other school-based services; and
(ii) Is not a business organized for
profit, a labor union, a partisan political
organization, or an organization
engaged in religious activities, unless
the qualifying activities are unrelated
to religious instruction, worship services,
or any form of proselytizing.

Oh, in case you missed it:

(2) A public child or family service
agency;

Hm.  Is this supposed to mean something specific?  Like a Child and Family Services Agency, capitalized and doing something well-defined (e.g., http://cfsa.dc.gov/DC/CFSA )?  I think they should have used the right conjunction if they want it to mean that.  Because a "child service agency" easily encompasses a public school in Yeongi-kongju.  I'm just saying a plain reading only requires the organization to be 1)public (check), and 2)to provide services (check) to 3)children (or, possibly, "a child") (check).  Way to write a reg, Education.  You can't even do that correctly.

Anyway, the other alternative is to start my own 501(c).  I'm thinking the Airpower Institute, under 501(c)(19).

(B) at least 75 percent of the members of which are past or present members of the Armed Forces of the United States and substantially all of the other members of which are individuals who are cadets or are spouses, widows,, [3] widowers, ancestors, or lineal descendants of past or present members of the Armed Forces of the United States...

Check.

OK, Tonitrus, I need you and two other guys.

[Ideologue]

Interview's Friday night.

In related news, I really cannot sing in my upper register anymore.  I'm on the edge of 30, experiencing a total eclipse of the voice.

[Eddie Teach]

Interview's Friday night.

In related news, I really cannot sing in my upper register anymore.

Does that mean you recently flubbed an audition for a musical?

[Malthus]

Actually, I'm pretty sure I need not worry about it.

Thank you for your inquiry regarding the relocation of your pet(s) from South
Carolina to Korea.  According to the information you have given, I estimate the
Pet Express move to be approximately $ 5295.00.

Oh my fucking God, you've got to be fucking kidding me.  That's literally more than people cost.

Maybe I accidentally hit DPRK and they've included the charge for fighter escort and anti-air suppression.

It's $295 for the move, and $5,000 to prevent the Koreans from serving up your pets as dinner. 

[Ideologue]

I wonder if I can get a doc review project in before I go.  I got a cold solicit from some lady who saw my resume, and my buddy (whom I think wants me to stay because we're the only two of the gang still here :sadblush: ) keeps telling me I'm being crazy and is pushing me to get a HireCounsel gig.