Scotland To Vote On Independence In Late 2014

[garbon]

Yay for mini-countries.

[Sheilbh]

Yay for mini-countries.

Indeed

[viper37]

It's funny how the federalists arguments are exactly the same as here.
Well, good luck to the Scots on whatever they choose.

@Yi:
following precedents in independance (ex-Yugoslavia, ex Tchecoslovaquia) it seems that it can be split either by the proportion of assets present in the newly formed country or pro-rata to the population.  I believe that for Kosovo they used the asset method.  For an occidental country not ravaged by war and with a complete social system in place, I do think however a split of the debt based on population would be fairer.  It's not like governments endebt themselves solely for the purchase of assets.

[Valmy]

Indeed

I just do not get what practical purpose they serve than satisfying the egos of nationalists.

[viper37]

Yay for mini-countries.

Big countries like the US are the way to go.  Strong economy, strong leadership, rapid reaction time from central governing authority, smallest possible government and absolutely no diseconomy of scale.  Everyone lives in harmony with one another and despite some small differences, they always on the core issues, like debt ceiling, spending levels, social rights like abortion and gay marriage, etc.

[Valmy]

Big countries like the US are the way to go.  Strong economy, strong leadership, rapid reaction time from central governing authority, smallest possible government and absolutely no diseconomy of scale.  Everyone lives in harmony with one another and despite some small differences, they always on the core issues, like debt ceiling, spending levels, social rights like abortion and gay marriage, etc.

Wait debt ceiling, spending levels, abortion, and gay marriage are core issues of a country?  Those are more like wedge issues.

[mongers]

Big countries like the US are the way to go.  Strong economy, strong leadership, rapid reaction time from central governing authority, smallest possible government and absolutely no diseconomy of scale.  Everyone lives in harmony with one another and despite some small differences, they always on the core issues, like debt ceiling, spending levels, social rights like abortion and gay marriage, etc.

Wait debt ceiling, spending levels, abortion, and gay marriage are core issues of a country?  Those are more like wedge issues.

Thin or thick end ?

[Valmy]

Thin or thick end ?

Thin, so you can pry votes away from your opponent.

[Zanza]

following precedents in independance (ex-Yugoslavia, ex Tchecoslovaquia) it seems that it can be split either by the proportion of assets present in the newly formed country or pro-rata to the population.  I believe that for Kosovo they used the asset method.  For an occidental country not ravaged by war and with a complete social system in place, I do think however a split of the debt based on population would be fairer.  It's not like governments endebt themselves solely for the purchase of assets.

I would use GDP, not population. Scotland is probably poorer than England, no?

[garbon]

Yay for mini-countries.

Big countries like the US are the way to go.  Strong economy, strong leadership, rapid reaction time from central governing authority, smallest possible government and absolutely no diseconomy of scale.  Everyone lives in harmony with one another and despite some small differences, they always on the core issues, like debt ceiling, spending levels, social rights like abortion and gay marriage, etc.

I'd say we a lot more coherent pull and power than we would as set of 50 "completely independent" countries.  That bit is in scare quotes as I don't see how a small state could really be independent from its near neighbors except in name.

[Sheilbh]

I would use GDP, not population. Scotland is probably poorer than England, no?

Yeah.  Far poorer.

[jimmy olsen]

Disgusting. Lay waste to Scotland if they dare secede! 

[Josquius]

I would prefer a vote sooner rather than later. I just don't trust the SNP. All being normal the vote would certainly be for the union to continue.
After the SNP have played their games for a few years though they might just trick enough people so they can sneak through with a small majority.
Pff, thats the trouble with votes like this. You say status quo then you can always have another referendum in a few years time, if it comes up independence though then thats that, the country is screwed...

[Razgovory]

I would use GDP, not population. Scotland is probably poorer than England, no?

Yeah.  Far poorer.

Well, maybe they can sort that out once they become their own country.  Ireland was very poor for a long time after breaking off.  It only became an affluent country relatively recently.  Since the late 1980's early 1990's.

[Admiral Yi]

Well, maybe they can sort that out once they become their own country.  Ireland was very poor for a long time after breaking off.  It only became an affluent country relatively recently.  Since the late 1980's early 1990's.

And then only for a few weeks.