French lawmakers pass genocide law on Armenians

[Admiral Yi]

OTOH, I used to like to watch Mannix, and Mike Connors is Armenian, so I guess Armenians are OK in my book.

Gadzooks!

And when I was in France in 1987 Mannix was the #1`show on TV, so the subject has come full circle.

[Ed Anger]

Ah, the French. So sophisticated.

[Ed Anger]

Yes, I pulled the old France loves Jerry Lewis thing out of my butt. Soak in it.

[garbon]

Excuse me, but some of us do support capital punishment.  (And the right to own guns, but given the qualifier, I don't have a problem with that part of your statement)

Do you tout it though? I'm pretty okay but I don't go about touting it.

[grumbler]

Excuse me, but some of us do support capital punishment. 

I haven't heard anyone here "tout" it, though.  Look the word up.  It's the word Marti used.

Edit:  Beaten by Garbo.  Point stands, though.  But maybe I'm making too big a deal over Marti's choice of words in a language wherein he isn't a native speaker.

Still, plenty of Euro liberals have supported the DP in the past, so Marti is wrong there, as well.

[jimmy olsen]

They were using explicitly Catholic symbols because their religion was being suppressed.  They later shifted to Royalist and Catholic Symbols.  It's unfortunate because he central government was vicious, blood thirsty and paranoid at the time.  A government that is putting people on barges and then sinking them because of their religion is committing genocide.

So you are just going to ignore all my points and just keep saying 'it's a genocide' over and over again hoping that will convince me?

The central government thought they would allow the coalition to land and restore the monarchy so they reacted brutally.  Just like the English government did when they thought the Irish were going to open the door to the Spanish.  In retrospect they were probably mistaken.  But as you say paranoia was really ruling the day in Paris.  For not completely insane reasons, but reasons of their own making: their dealings with the Catholic Church.

What fantasies the Central government entertained are irrelevant.  It does not matter if they think they will bring back the King, or because they fear they will pollute their pure bloodlines, or because they think they Martians in disguise.  When a government commits crimes like this they always think they are justified.  It is the action that matters, not the excuses.  The actions of the French government go well beyond simple war and even repression.

I agree, their actions went well beyond brutal oppression and crossed the line into genocide.

[Sheilbh]

What people were they trying to eliminate?

[grumbler]

They were using explicitly Catholic symbols because their religion was being suppressed.  They later shifted to Royalist and Catholic Symbols.  It's unfortunate because he central government was vicious, blood thirsty and paranoid at the time.  A government that is putting people on barges and then sinking them because of their religion is committing genocide.

So you are just going to ignore all my points and just keep saying 'it's a genocide' over and over again hoping that will convince me?

The central government thought they would allow the coalition to land and restore the monarchy so they reacted brutally.  Just like the English government did when they thought the Irish were going to open the door to the Spanish.  In retrospect they were probably mistaken.  But as you say paranoia was really ruling the day in Paris.  For not completely insane reasons, but reasons of their own making: their dealings with the Catholic Church.

What fantasies the Central government entertained are irrelevant.  It does not matter if they think they will bring back the King, or because they fear they will pollute their pure bloodlines, or because they think they Martians in disguise.  When a government commits crimes like this they always think they are justified.  It is the action that matters, not the excuses.  The actions of the French government go well beyond simple war and even repression.

I agree, their actions went well beyond brutal oppression and crossed the line into genocide.

You win, Valmy!  If Timmay and Raz agree you are wrong, you are most certainly right. 

[grumbler]

What people were they trying to eliminate?

This is Timmay.  He thinks that, when the Patriots lose, that is genocide.

[Neil]

Putting the Japanese in camps during WWII is "Doing something really, really shitty to people".  I rather think that the Vendee goes a bit beyond that.

You would be wrong.

[Neil]

I agree, their actions went well beyond brutal oppression and crossed the line into genocide.

Translation:

"I don't know what genocide means, but I think it's like something really bad."

The next step would be 'neogenocide'.

[Neil]

Martinus' idea of liberalism that he can do whatever he wants, but anybody who calls him a braindead faggot who makes the Kaczynski look like smart Poles by comparison would get the death penalty.

[Razgovory]

What people were they trying to eliminate?

I would say Catholicism.  Closing up the Churches and executing the priests and nuns does give that impression.

[Razgovory]

Putting the Japanese in camps during WWII is "Doing something really, really shitty to people".  I rather think that the Vendee goes a bit beyond that.

You would be wrong.

When did you start siding with regicides?

[Sheilbh]

I would say Catholicism.  Closing up the Churches and executing the priests and nuns does give that impression.

Catholicism's not a people.  Assuming you mean Catholics in the Vendee, did they succeed?