GOP Primary Megathread!

[Berkut]

Is this just some dumbass way of going after Obama about *something*? I find it really hard to believe that even the fundies care about contraception - hell, the vast majority of Catholics use contraception!

[fhdz]

Is this just some dumbass way of going after Obama about *something*? I find it really hard to believe that even the fundies care about contraception - hell, the vast majority of Catholics use contraception!

Yes, they're trying to turn it into a freedom-of-religion issue.

Like Christian Scientists who watch their kids die instead of taking them to get basic medical care.

[alfred russel]

Is this just some dumbass way of going after Obama about *something*? I find it really hard to believe that even the fundies care about contraception - hell, the vast majority of Catholics use contraception!

I would think the smarter way to attack the rule would be that contraceptives should be outside the scope of mandatory insurance: 1) insurance should be to protect you from things going wrong, and animal design / biology being what it is, getting pregnant is sort of the point, and 2) contraceptives are usually rather cheap and elective, so it would be more cost efficient to leave them for individuals to buy.

[Darth Wagtaros]

Is this just some dumbass way of going after Obama about *something*? I find it really hard to believe that even the fundies care about contraception - hell, the vast majority of Catholics use contraception!

The whole controversy was artificial from teh start.  The Democrats get to whip up the base on some weird fake battle about Republicans wanting to enslave women or control their reproductive rights ala abortion whilst the Christians and libertarians freak out about big gubbermint telling businesses what to do.  The stuff I see from both on Facebook is just scary.   not funny, or sad, but outright scary.


Stuff like this makes me wonder just how much back room collusion goes on between the national committees.  They've got to be raking in the cash from hysterical idiots.

[Eddie Teach]

Stuff like this makes me wonder just how much back room collusion goes on between the national committees.  They've got to be raking in the cash from hysterical idiots.

I'm sure they've already got plenty to pay salaries and overhead, so what would be the point?

[derspiess]

I always got annoyed at feminazis crying how insurance companies pay for Viagra but not their whore pills.  Viagra treats a medical condition.  Not being able to keep your legs closed is not a medical condition.

[DGuller]

I always got annoyed at feminazis crying how insurance companies pay for Viagra but not their whore pills.  Viagra treats a medical condition.  Not being able to keep your legs closed is not a medical condition.

Yes, you've really comprehensively demolished feminists with this shining example of enlightenment.

[DGuller]

Is this just some dumbass way of going after Obama about *something*? I find it really hard to believe that even the fundies care about contraception - hell, the vast majority of Catholics use contraception!

I would think the smarter way to attack the rule would be that contraceptives should be outside the scope of mandatory insurance: 1) insurance should be to protect you from things going wrong, and animal design / biology being what it is, getting pregnant is sort of the point, and 2) contraceptives are usually rather cheap and elective, so it would be more cost efficient to leave them for individuals to buy.

Yeah, from an insurance points of view, covering contraception is sheer idiocy.  It's supposed to be insurance, not a pre-paid plan.

[fhdz]

Yes, you've really comprehensively demolished feminists with this shining example of enlightenment.

[Eddie Teach]

Yeah, from an insurance points of view, covering contraception is sheer idiocy.  It's supposed to be insurance, not a pre-paid plan.

It's a heck of a lot cheaper than covering the pregnancy.

[fhdz]

Yeah, from an insurance points of view, covering contraception is sheer idiocy.  It's supposed to be insurance, not a pre-paid plan.

It's insurance against unwanted pregnancy!



Nah, I got nothin'.

[derspiess]

I always got annoyed at feminazis crying how insurance companies pay for Viagra but not their whore pills.  Viagra treats a medical condition.  Not being able to keep your legs closed is not a medical condition.

Yes, you've really comprehensively demolished feminists with this shining example of enlightenment.

Never fails 

[Ed Anger]

Women aren't people.

[alfred russel]

Yeah, from an insurance points of view, covering contraception is sheer idiocy.  It's supposed to be insurance, not a pre-paid plan.

It's a heck of a lot cheaper than covering the pregnancy.

I don't think insurance companies are going to get out from covering the pregnancy.

From what I understand, covering birth control is more expensive, even if you possibly get some decrease in pregnancy at the margins.

[Berkut]

Is this just some dumbass way of going after Obama about *something*? I find it really hard to believe that even the fundies care about contraception - hell, the vast majority of Catholics use contraception!

I would think the smarter way to attack the rule would be that contraceptives should be outside the scope of mandatory insurance: 1) insurance should be to protect you from things going wrong, and animal design / biology being what it is, getting pregnant is sort of the point, and 2) contraceptives are usually rather cheap and elective, so it would be more cost efficient to leave them for individuals to buy.

Yeah, from an insurance points of view, covering contraception is sheer idiocy.  It's supposed to be insurance, not a pre-paid plan.

But health insurance hasn't been about insurance for a very long time. It is in fact a pre-paid plan. Sort of.

I would not have any problem with contraception (non-mediclaly necessary contraception) being covered or not covered in general. I can see good arguments either way.

I cannot see any good argument of the form "My group has religious objections to some medical procedure, so we should be allowed to not provide particular medical procedures to those we employ, even if they are not in our religious group at all." That is just sheer idiocy.