Former lovers of undercover officers sue police over deceit

Started by jimmy olsen, December 17, 2011, 04:02:59 AM

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jimmy olsen

Can't wait to see what the noted feminists of Languish have to say about this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/16/lovers-undercover-officers-sue-police
QuoteFormer lovers of undercover officers sue police over deceit

Women launch legal action claiming they suffered emotional trauma after being deceived into forming relationships

    Rob Evans and Paul Lewis
    guardian.co.uk, Friday 16 December 2011 17.21 GMT



Eight women who say they were duped into forming long-term loving relationships with undercover policemen have started legal action against police chiefs, alleging that they have suffered intense emotional trauma and pain.

The women say the men "deliberately and knowingly deceived" them into forming intimate relationships of up to nine years by concealing their real identities.

They say the men, who had been sent to infiltrate protest groups, were using them "physically and emotionally" to obtain intelligence about those campaigns.

In an unprecedented move, they are now threatening to sue police chiefs as they say that the "deeply degrading" deceit caused them psychiatric and psychological injuries including depression, trauma, anxiety, anger and a difficulty to trust people again.

In legal papers sent to police chiefs, the women outline the scale of the alleged deception, saying that the relationships with five named men spanned from 1987 to last year. It is the first time that two of the men have been accused of being police spies.

The allegations contradict claims by police chiefs that their undercover officers are not permitted "under any circumstances" to sleep with people they are spying on.

Police chiefs claim it is "grossly unprofessional" and "never acceptable" for undercover officers to have sex with people they are targeting. The women were involved in the campaigns being infiltrated or loosely connected to them.

Mark Kennedy, the undercover policeman who infiltrated the environment movement for seven years, is said in the legal papers to have had relationships with three of the women.

One woman says she had a relationship with him between 2004 and 2010, while another says their relationship lasted between 2003 and 2005. A third says she had a relationship with him between February and September 2005.

Kennedy says he only slept with two women during his years pretending to be an environmental activist.

According to the legal papers, many of the women "became deeply emotionally attached, fell in love" with the undercover policemen, believing "they had met a true friend with whom they might share a long-term future".

"It appears that [the men] used techniques they had been trained in to gain trust and thereby created the illusion that they might be a 'soulmate'," to many of the women, they say.

Alleging that they have been assaulted, the women say "there is no doubt that the officers obtained the consent of [these women] to sexual intercourse by deceit".

The disclosure of the planned legal action heightens the controversy over the police's undercover operation to spy on political movements over the past four decades.

It caps a year in which the unmasking of Kennedy, by activists, has led to the exposure of five other undercover officers who infiltrated political groups. A sixth had gone public last year.

In the past year, police chiefs have also faced allegations that they corrupted the legal system by authorising undercover officers to give false evidence in court and spy on private meetings between defendants and their lawyers, and failed to disclose vital evidence which wrongly convicted protesters.

Police chiefs have also been criticised for wasting taxpayers' money on mounting huge operations to monitor campaigners involved in peaceful and legitimate protests.

But many believe the most damaging allegations centre on the long-term, sexual relationships between the undercover policemen and campaigners they were snooping on.

The eight women have come together to take legal action against the Metropolitan police, which ran one of the covert surveillance units and is now responsible for its apparent successor. Their lawyer, Harriet Wistrich of London law firm Birnberg Peirce, has sent legal papers to Scotland Yard as a prelude to a full-scale human rights lawsuit.

In the papers, she outlines their case against police chiefs for assault, deceit, negligence and misfeasance in public office. They want police chiefs to pay compensation and disclose full details of the undercover policemen's activities, which she says had no lawful justification.

In the papers, she also says that two of the women had relationships with Jim Boyling, who infiltrated environmental and animal rights groups in the 1990s.

She says that another woman "had a relationship with a man known as Mark Cassidy between 1995 and 2000". Another woman was "in a relationship with a man known as John Barker between 1990 and 1992," she says.

The fifth man to have a relationship with one of the eight women is named as Bob Lambert, who infiltrated animal rights and environmental campaigns in the mid-1980s and went on to be key part of the secret operation in the 1990s.

In the legal papers, Wistrich also says that "some of the officers were married and had children under their real identities, a fact completely hidden" from the women.

The women are not named as they intend to ask the court to grant them anonymity to protect their privacy.

The Metropolitan police said it was considering a letter from the women's lawyers, adding that eputy Assistant Commissioner Mark Simmons was conducting a review of covert deployments between 1968 and 2008.

"This is a complex process due to the elapsed time, the nature and volume of material and the inherent sensitivity of the issues," it said.
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Tonitrus

So basically, they want to be able to sue these cops for doing what non-cops do to women all the time?

The Brain

If they didn't claim to be Jewish why would the court care?
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Martinus

There are "noted feminists" on Languish?

I thought we had a bunch of male chauvinists, a bunch of homos, a few chicks who hang out with weirdos and a small group of guys who don't actually hate women, but never noticed a feminist.

In short: Tim fails at not failing again.

Lucidor

Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2011, 05:19:42 AM
There are "noted feminists" on Languish?

I thought we had a bunch of male chauvinists, a bunch of homos, a few chicks who hang out with weirdos and a small group of guys who don't actually hate women, but never noticed a feminist.

In short: Tim fails at not failing again.
:-)

An apt summary, Martinus.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2011, 05:19:42 AM
There are "noted feminists" on Languish?

I thought we had a bunch of male chauvinists, a bunch of homos, a few chicks who hang out with weirdos and a small group of guys who don't actually hate women, but never noticed a feminist.

In short: Tim fails at not failing again.
Might want to get your sarcasm detector checked.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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dps

Beyond any other considerations, I don't think "emotional trauma" is something that should be actionable in the first place.

grumbler

Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 17, 2011, 05:46:16 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2011, 05:19:42 AM
There are "noted feminists" on Languish?

I thought we had a bunch of male chauvinists, a bunch of homos, a few chicks who hang out with weirdos and a small group of guys who don't actually hate women, but never noticed a feminist.

In short: Tim fails at not failing again.
Might want to get your sarcasm detector checked.
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Ideologue

I'm not sure I like the idea of rape by fraud very much--and this is essentially a tort version of that.  But this is definitely a case that suggests to me it has a place and function.  This is fucked up, and even from a purely self-interested point of view, I don't want to live in a world where women suspect potential sexual partners are spies.

And all the libertards on the board should, after no more than a moment's consideration, be concerned about living in a world where the government can literally fuck people.

I think what troubles me the most is the total nature of the deception that appears to have taken place.  Let's look at that case in Israel where the Arab guy was fucking a Jewish girl under the pretense that he was Jewish too, deemed rape by fraud by an Israeli court.  That guy actually went to jail, which is a severe overreaction.  But should have been civilly liable?  I think that seems fair.  And damages should have been slight, maybe even nominal, as a Jewish girl should have been only mildly concerned over fucking an Arab (Siegebreaker's wife, for example, seems perfectly fine).

The difference is that that incident was not such a total deception, but more along the lines of lying about income (guilty) or military service (guilty).  Whereas this involves lying about the very nature of the relationship itself for years on end.

The latter seems potentially very damaging to me.  And it's all the worse when the statedoes it.  I know Ton was being glib, but yeah, that sounds right to me.

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Martinus

Quote from: dps on December 17, 2011, 06:08:27 AM
Beyond any other considerations, I don't think "emotional trauma" is something that should be actionable in the first place.

It depends how you define emotional trauma, I guess. A lot of pretty much actionable matters have a strong emotional trauma element to them. Intimidation, stalking, invasion of privacy defamation etc. all have a strong emotional trauma component to them (and, depending on circumstances, it may be even the main element).

Plus there is also an argument that while ordinary people can be assholes to each other, the state's agents paid with tax payers money can't, at least not to the same extent.

Martinus

Quote from: Ideologue on December 17, 2011, 06:36:21 AM
I'm not sure I like the idea of rape by fraud very much--and this is essentially a tort version of that.  But this is definitely a case that suggests to me it has a place and function.  This is fucked up, and even from a purely self-interested point of view, I don't want to live in a world where women suspect potential sexual partners are spies.

And all the libertards on the board should, after no more than a moment's consideration, be concerned about living in a world where the government can literally fuck people.

I think what troubles me the most is the total nature of the deception that appears to have taken place.  Let's look at that case in Israel where the Arab guy was fucking a Jewish girl under the pretense that he was Jewish too, deemed rape by fraud by an Israeli court.  That guy actually went to jail, which is a severe overreaction.  But should have been civilly liable?  I think that seems fair.  And damages should have been slight, maybe even nominal, as a Jewish girl should have been only mildly concerned over fucking an Arab (Siegebreaker's wife, for example, seems perfectly fine).

The difference is that that incident was not such a total deception, but more along the lines of lying about income (guilty) or military service (guilty).  Whereas this involves lying about the very nature of the relationship itself for years on end.

The latter seems potentially very damaging to me.  And it's all the worse when the statedoes it.  I know Ton was being glib, but yeah, that sounds right to me.

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to stick my cock in you."

I think there is also a problem here that this is not done to investigate a crime, but to spy on citizens exercising their constitutional rights.

To me, a government agent pretending to be your boyfriend/girlfriend for years on end, to get private info out of you during pillow talk is somehow worse than the same agent taping your phone or reading your e-mails.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Martinus on December 17, 2011, 06:51:33 AM
I think there is also a problem here that this is not done to investigate a crime, but to spy on citizens exercising their constitutional rights.
Agreed. 

I don't understand why the Met had so many undercover agents in environmental protest groups.  It seems to me an absolutely insane use of police time.

QuoteI'm not sure I like the idea of rape by fraud very much--and this is essentially a tort version of that.
I think the most plausible is the human rights action.  I think they're suing under the prohibition on inhumane and degrading treatment and the right to family life and privacy.
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The Brain

Do undercover cops get paid for 24 h a day btw? If he wasn't on the clock when he banged her then tough luck.
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Neil

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