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Started by mongers, December 13, 2011, 03:19:42 PM

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mongers

Saudi Arabia beheads woman for 'sorcery'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16150381

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Saudi woman executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery'

A Saudi woman has been executed for practising "witchcraft and sorcery", the country's interior ministry says.

A statement published by the state news agency said Amina bint Abdul Halim bin Salem Nasser was beheaded on Monday in the northern province of Jawf.

The ministry gave no further details of the charges which the woman faced.

The woman was the second person to be executed for witchcraft in Saudi Arabia this year. A Sudanese man was executed in September.
'Threat to Islam'

BBC regionalist analyst Sebastian Usher says the interior ministry stated that the verdict against Ms Nasser was upheld by Saudi Arabia's highest courts, but it did not give specific details of the charges.

The London-based newspaper, al-Hayat, quoted a member of the religious police as saying that she was in her 60s and had tricked people into giving her money, claiming that she could cure their illnesses.

Our correspondent said she was arrested in April 2009.

But the human rights group Amnesty International, which has campaigned for Saudis previously sentenced to death on sorcery charges, said it had never heard of her case until now, he adds.

A Sudanese man was executed in September on similar charges, despite calls led by Amnesty for his release.

In 2007, an Egyptian national was beheaded for allegedly casting spells to try to separate a married couple.

Last year, a Lebanese man facing the death penalty on charges of sorcery, relating to a fortune-telling television programme he presented, was freed after the Saudi Supreme Court decreed that his actions had not harmed anyone.

Amnesty says that Saudi Arabia does not actually define sorcery as a capital offence. However, some of its conservative clerics have urged the strongest possible punishments against fortune-tellers and faith healers as a threat to Islam.




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JonasSalk

Sorcery doesn't exist, so they've murdered this woman for absolutely nothing.

:yuk:
Yuman

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i read another article where it made it sound like they executed her for fraud, not witch craft. still an over reaction.
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Razgovory

Quote from: JonasSalk on December 13, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
Sorcery doesn't exist, so they've murdered this woman for absolutely nothing.

:yuk:

Nothing gets past you, huh?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

Quote from: Razgovory on December 13, 2011, 03:52:26 PM
Well that's one way to deal with Wiccans.

Now if we could do that to Dawkins fans.
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garbon

Quote from: JonasSalk on December 13, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
Sorcery doesn't exist, so they've murdered this woman for absolutely nothing.

:yuk:

I wonder what you'll be saying when someone causes your testicles to shrink.
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Quote from: garbon on December 13, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
I wonder what you'll be saying when someone causes your testicles to shrink.

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Malthus

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on December 13, 2011, 05:19:02 PM
Quote from: garbon on December 13, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
I wonder what you'll be saying when someone causes your testicles to shrink.

"Thanks for the 'roids man, my lats are ripped!" ?

:lmfao:
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PDH

To be fair, the thread title should be "news from the 15th century"
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mongers

Quote from: PDH on December 13, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
To be fair, the thread title should be "news from the 15th century"

No I went for 13th, because 15th/16th would be too near to when the English went from having witchcraft as an evil crime to it being described as just fraud and punishable as such;  I don't think the Saudis are anywhere near that legislative progress.  :P
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JonasSalk

Quote from: Razgovory on December 13, 2011, 03:52:48 PMNothing gets past you, huh?

Says the genius who doesn't understand basic sociological studies. Is there a reason why you post, Raz? Medicine cabinet run out?
Yuman

Josquius

Quote from: JonasSalk on December 13, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
Sorcery doesn't exist, so they've murdered this woman for absolutely nothing.

:yuk:
Poppycock. They've been killing sorcerers for centuries and thus remain safe from magic.
The system works.
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JonasSalk

Quote from: Tyr on December 13, 2011, 07:31:49 PMPoppycock. They've been killing sorcerers for centuries and thus remain safe from magic.
The system works.

I dunno, my testicles keep getting smaller every year. I think that gypsy who cursed me for running his daughter over when I was 19 needs to be the next target of the Saudis.
Yuman

Viking

Quote from: PDH on December 13, 2011, 05:27:40 PM
To be fair, the thread title should be "news from the 15th century"

actually 21st, the NIV update for 2011 still has

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+22&version=NIV
Quote18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live.

and the newest KJV

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2022&version=KJ21
Quote18"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

It's just that when the muslims read their book they take it seriously.
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