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Started by garbon, November 23, 2011, 10:18:57 AM

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fhdz

#45
November 23, 2011, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on November 23, 2011, 07:13:05 PM
:angry:

Edwards was and remains a complete douchebag. Sorry.
and the horse you rode in on

Admiral Yi

#46
November 23, 2011, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on November 23, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
In '09 he advised the board of UnitedHealth in a campaign against universal health coverage; he lobbies for the Medicines Company and chairs the Council of American Medical Innovation to block generics and extend patents; and he basically broke the union at Spirit Aerosystems earlier this year. It's like Bizarro Gephardt.

Interesting.  A very similar career arc to Tom Daschle, another midwestern union whore.

What in the world is Spirit Aerosystems and how did Dick break the union there?

fhdz

#47
November 23, 2011, 07:24:16 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2011, 07:21:13 PM
What in the world is Spirit Aerosystems and how did Dick break the union there?

They make shit for Boeing. BTW Gephardt's a lobbyist for Boeing now too, and on the board over at Ford even O_O

Spirit on Gephardt's advice walked out of negotiations with the union this summer.
and the horse you rode in on

Admiral Yi

#48
November 23, 2011, 07:25:56 PM
Fascinating.

Razgovory

#49
November 23, 2011, 07:27:13 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on November 23, 2011, 06:31:12 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 23, 2011, 06:22:41 PMBush won in '04 because the Dems were overconfident and nominated an elitist New England liberal.
This isn't fair at all.  Of the potential candidates they nominated the most credible-seeming.  Not only that but they nominated the Vietnam vet to fire-proof them from attack on national security.  I think this spin is ignoring the 2004 primary.

Who else was there?  Edwards, Lieberman, Dean, Gephardt?  Kerry was the best of a bad bunch.

I think Dean was a better candidate then we gave him credit for.  The Dems were still afraid of looking anti-war at the time even though it was becoming increasingly clear that Iraq was a mugs game.  I think Dean really reflected what the Dem base wanted, but the natural liberal wishy-washyness encouraged Kerry.  As Chairmen Dean proved an excellent strategist.  Gephardt was the old guard.  Very Union (I have family that knew him pretty well).  Unfortunately Union members a decreasing demographic so he never had a chance.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#50
November 23, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2011, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: fahdiz on November 23, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
In '09 he advised the board of UnitedHealth in a campaign against universal health coverage; he lobbies for the Medicines Company and chairs the Council of American Medical Innovation to block generics and extend patents; and he basically broke the union at Spirit Aerosystems earlier this year. It's like Bizarro Gephardt.

Interesting.  A very similar career arc to Tom Daschle, another midwestern union whore.

What in the world is Spirit Aerosystems and how did Dick break the union there?

Do you consider pro-business pols whores as well?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

fhdz

#51
November 23, 2011, 07:30:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2011, 07:25:56 PM
Fascinating.

Right? If this shit didn't exist we'd have to invent it.
and the horse you rode in on

Admiral Yi

#52
November 23, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 23, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
Do you consider pro-business pols whores as well?

Really depends on what you mean by pro-business.

Razgovory

#53
November 23, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 23, 2011, 07:27:51 PM
Do you consider pro-business pols whores as well?

Really depends on what you mean by pro-business.

I mean like "Pro-Union" except instead of "Union" I used the word "Business".
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#54
November 23, 2011, 07:42:29 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 23, 2011, 07:40:29 PM
I mean like "Pro-Union" except instead of "Union" I used the word "Business".

Then yes.  If a politician enacted legislation that favored a minority to the detriment of the rest of us, I would consider that politician a whore for whatever special interests he favored.

Razgovory

#55
November 23, 2011, 07:54:38 PM
Okay, so that's most Republicans then.  Good to see we are on the same page.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#56
November 23, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
I don't think that's most Republicans and I don't think we are on the same page Raz.

Razgovory

#57
November 23, 2011, 07:59:44 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 23, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
I don't think that's most Republicans and I don't think we are on the same page Raz.

You don't think most Republicans (and probably Democrats) haven't enacted bills that benefit a business in their district?  There's only so much of that money federal money to go around.  Every dollar of pork that goes to a business in your distinct is not going to my district, or Berkut's, or Fahdiz's.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#58
November 23, 2011, 08:01:26 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 23, 2011, 07:59:44 PM
You don't think most Republicans (and probably Democrats) haven't enacted bills that benefit a business in their district?  There's only so much of that money federal money to go around.  Every dollar of pork that goes to a business in your distinct is not going to my district, or Berkut's, or Fahdiz's.

:D  OK Raz, you win.

Neil

#59
November 23, 2011, 08:08:46 PM
Even if Obama stepped aside, who amongst the Democrats has the strength and leadership to take over the presidential run?
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