British to Allow Armed Guards to Combat Sea Piracy

[jimmy olsen]

Cool. 

I wonder what the American policy on this is?

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/10/30/world/europe/AP-Piracy.html?_r=2

British to Allow Armed Guards to Combat Sea Piracy
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: October 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM ET

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LONDON (AP) — Ships sailing under Britain's flag will be permitted to carry armed guards on some perilous routes to combat the threat from pirates, the prime minister said Sunday.
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David Cameron said Britain was reversing its opposition to the use of weapons aboard ships, amid mounting concern about the risks of vessels and crew being seized by pirates — particularly off Somalia's coast.

Cameron's office said the use of weapons on British-flagged ships is banned under firearms laws, but that new rules would be in place within a month.

Britain's announcement follows the decision in February of the International Chamber of Shipping, the major trade association of ship owners, to support members hiring private security companies to provide protection.

"The evidence is that ships with armed guards don't get attacked, don't get taken for hostage or for ransom, and so we think this is a very important step forward," Cameron told BBC television during a visit to a Commonwealth summit in Australia, where he discussed the issue with leaders from the Seychelles and Mauritius.

Cameron said Britain's interior ministry would issue licenses authorizing the use of armed guards for ships operating off East Africa's coast, in other parts of the Indian Ocean and in the Arabian Sea.

He said the change is intended for commercial vessels, rather than leisure sailors — such as Paul and Rachel Chandler, the British couple held for 388 days by Somali pirates.

"The extent of the hijack and ransom of ships around the Horn of Africa I think is a complete stain on our world," Cameron told the BBC. "The fact that a bunch of pirates in Somalia are managing to hold to ransom the rest of the world and our trading system I think is a complete insult."

Many nations, including Britain and Germany, had previously been nervy over the use of armed guards — and Cameron did not elaborate on what rules would apply on the use of lethal force by private security contractors.

"Piracy is a very serious problem and it's sensible to allow ships to take the appropriate measures to protect their crew and cargo," Britain's Transport Secretary Justine Greening said in a statement. "The U.K. will allow the use of private armed security guards on our ships in exceptional circumstances and where it is lawful to do so."

In Germany, ship owners have pressured lawmakers to change the nation's weapons law to allow German ships to carry armed guards. Under current laws, the captains are required to apply individually for the right to carry arms, but would only be able to use them under certain, restrictive circumstances.

Lawmakers are debating how legislation could be changed to allow for ships to routinely carry weapons, plans which are being met with resistance from some opposition lawmakers and representatives of Germany's powerful police force, which worries such changes could lead to an overall easing of the nation's strict weapons laws.

The U.N. International Maritime Organization issued guidance in May on the use of armed guards — warning that there had been 489 acts of piracy or armed robbery against ships in 2010, an increase on the previous year.

Some maritime groups and insurers have opposed arming ships because of liability issues, and over fears that to do so could provoke an arms race with pirates. Other skeptics have worried that if ships from wealthy companies hire expensive security crews, hostage-takers will simply switch focus to softer targets.

Earlier this month, the International Chamber of Shipping urged nations to also take additional military action to combat piracy.

"Private armed guards do not represent a long-term solution," the organization's chairman Spyros Polemis said. "Rather, their use actually signifies a failure on the part of the international community — and those governments with significant military forces — to ensure the security of maritime trade.

"Governments don't like it when we say this, but the reality is that they have ceded control of the Indian Ocean to the pirates," he said.

Figures released earlier this month by the EU Naval Force show that pirates hold nine ships and an estimated 246 hostages. In February, pirates killed a Filipino crewman aboard the German-owned MV Beluga Nomination.

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Melissa Eddy in Berlin contributed to this report.

[Neil]

What good are armed guards against pirates with RPGs?  No, the answer is this:

[jimmy olsen]

Woah, that photo's fantastic! :jaw on the floor:

[Habbaku]

Despite Timmay's fanboisplooge, that actually is a rather impressive photo.

As for the pirates, well...this is a no-brainer decision.  I can certainly understand and empathize with the idea that ships shouldn't be carting around weaponry at all times, but when the reality is that the waters are occasionally unsafe?  Lock and load.

[Tonitrus]

Woah, that photo's fantastic! :jaw on the floor:

I have my doubts that is a photo and not an illustration.

[KRonn]

During wartime, WW1 and WW2, some ships were armed against attack on the open sea. Should be a similar situation now, with pirates being the attackers.

[grumbler]

Woah, that photo's fantastic! :jaw on the floor:

I have my doubts that is a photo and not an illustration.

It is not a photo, I am pretty sure.  It has a signature at the bottom right, and only original artwork has that, as far as I know.

It is from a 1914 postcard:

[Grey Fox]

What good are armed guards against pirates with RPGs?  No, the answer is this:

They might have RPGs but they don't have sturdy boats. One good shot & BAM, they sink to the bottom of the sea.

[grumbler]

During wartime, WW1 and WW2, some ships were armed against attack on the open sea. Should be a similar situation now, with pirates being the attackers.

Yeah.  I can understand caution on the basis of safety, but surely that is a balance best evaluated by the owners, not the government.

[Neil]

No, it's definitely an illustration.  The angles are just a bit too perfect to be believed, the lines a bit too clear, and I've seen the colour version before.  If you take out the sepia, it's really obvious.

[Berkut]

What I find amazing about this story is that apparently the Brits did NOT allow armed guards prior to this, on otherwise private vessels.

It only took a decade of piracy to get that rule changed?

[Razgovory]

Don't most merchant vessels fly under a flag of convenience?

[Neil]

Yeah, I was going to say that this doesn't really make much difference, does it?  I mean, if the Bahamas or Panama were to do this, that might be newsworthy.

[Razgovory]

Yeah, I was going to say that this doesn't really make much difference, does it?  I mean, if the Bahamas or Panama were to do this, that might be newsworthy.

Even if they did, the individual companies would likely be the ones making the decision.  Since they use flag of conveniences is partly to avoid safety regulations, I doubt they really care that much about their crews.  I imagine they'll have someone like Dguller work out it the numbers to see if putting guards on the ships is less expensive then paying an occasional ransom.  If not, then there won't likely be guards.

[dps]

Even if they did, the individual companies would likely be the ones making the decision.  Since they use flag of conveniences is partly to avoid safety regulations, I doubt they really care that much about their crews.  I imagine they'll have someone like Dguller work out it the numbers to see if putting guards on the ships is less expensive then paying an occasional ransom.  If not, then there won't likely be guards.

If the companies that own the vessels won't provide armed guards, then I bet that the crewmembers will arm themselves.  If fact, I suspect that they already do in many cases.