Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul

Started by garbon, October 02, 2011, 04:31:46 PM

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Malthus on October 17, 2011, 04:31:31 PM
Welfare cannot create such opportunities.

But a badly designed welfare system can remove opportunities.

Take the claw back provisions.  It used to be in this province that if a welfare recipient earned any income they would lose their welfare benefits.  This was clearly silly and resulted in large welfare rolls.  The system is still far from perfect but at least allows for the possibility that people can gain some work experience and not lose their benefits entirely.




The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Jacob on October 17, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
Provide this rhetorical single mother on welfare with access to education so she can learn the skills to get a decent job and provide cheap and adequate child care while she's in school and working and voila! Instead of being in a welfare trap she will be stuck with a crushing student loan burden she can't pay off while still not having a decent job

Fixed.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Neil

I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Jacob

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Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 17, 2011, 05:00:42 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 17, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
Provide this rhetorical single mother on welfare with access to education so she can learn the skills to get a decent job and provide cheap and adequate child care while she's in school and working and voila! Instead of being in a welfare trap she will be stuck with a crushing student loan burden she can't pay off while still not having a decent job

Fixed.

I think it'd be better not to crush her with student debt, but I guess opinions differ.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.

Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.

Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.
Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.
It's all champagne, unless you hang with wine snobs.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

garbon

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.

Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.

I believe that was you in the champagne case.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.
Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.
It's all champagne, unless you hang with wine snobs.

Yeah, I knew this was another such attempt.

crazy canuck

Quote from: garbon on October 17, 2011, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.

Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.

I believe that was you in the champagne case.

Are you going to try to pretend not to have pretensions again?

Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.

Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.

I have never eaten an inorganic pork chop.  "Organic" is a meaningless buzzword.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:26:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 17, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on October 17, 2011, 03:48:40 PM
a pulled pork cart - which raises their own organic pork);
Interesting fact:  All pork is organic.
Is this going to be another attempt to ignore normal usage of words - like calling all sparkling wines Champagne.
It's all champagne, unless you hang with wine snobs.
Yeah, I knew this was another such attempt.
You can try, but we all know the truth.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

PDH

I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
-Umberto Eco

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"I'm pretty sure my level of depression has nothing to do with how much of a fucking asshole you are."

-CdM

Neil

Quote from: PDH on October 17, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
I would like some sparkling pork please.
CC will tell you that sparkling pork is any pork from outside of France.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.