Turkey promises to escort aid ships to Gaza

[Admiral Yi]

Yeah, especially the Turkish Semites.

[Viking]

Wouldn't it be lovely to see the Semites go at each others throats on our plasma screens?  No doubt Israel would prevail but I doubt it would be livable afterward.




G.

Turks are not Semites, they are Altai. Us Indo-Europeans will watch from the sidelines.

[Grallon]

*shrug*  Turks, Altai, Semites... what's the difference?  The whole region is a powder keg waiting to explode.  Which will make for a lively show on TV.




G.

[Viking]

Ignorant fools.

Don't go around calling Turks Semites, they are not Semites. Not caring when you are wrong does not ennoble you in my view.

[Grallon]

Don't go around calling Turks Semites, they are not Semites. Not caring when you are wrong does not ennoble you in my view.

Viking, Viking!  I care not to appear noble in anyone's view here - or anywhere else for that matter.  All I care about is my unavoidable mortality - and whatever provides some distraction while I wait for it.  Having some 'untermensch' tribes fight it out is one such interlude.



G.

[Viking]

Don't go around calling Turks Semites, they are not Semites. Not caring when you are wrong does not ennoble you in my view.

Viking, Viking!  I care not to appear noble in anyone's view here - or anywhere else for that matter.  All I care about is my unavoidable mortality - and whatever provides some distraction while I wait for it.  Having some 'untermensch' tribes fight it out is one such interlude.



G.

I just think that we should at least show the gladiators that are about to die for our amusement the basic minimal respect of getting their names right.

[Razgovory]

Don't go around calling Turks Semites, they are not Semites. Not caring when you are wrong does not ennoble you in my view.

Viking, Viking!  I care not to appear noble in anyone's view here - or anywhere else for that matter.  All I care about is my unavoidable mortality - and whatever provides some distraction while I wait for it.  Having some 'untermensch' tribes fight it out is one such interlude.



G.

Actually the Israelis are wealthier then your people I believe.  So you have to look up to them.   Also, they did get independence from the Brits.

[Razgovory]

Incidently I thought the Altaic family was a somewhat contentious one.

[HisMajestyBOB]

What's Turkey's end-game anyway?  It seems obvious to me that it is trying to use any excuse to worsen the ties with Israel.  Is the end goal to make Turkey hostile to Israel, or is it to go further and provoke a war with Israel?

It'd be for the best if there was war. The whole region was better off under Turkish control.

Yeah but you can't redraw major borders anymore.

That ended with the World Wars. It's ironic though that before deciding it's bad manners to redraw the maps, they quickly fucked up world borders.

Damn Brits ruining everything 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Wouldn't it be lovely to see the Semites go at each others throats on our plasma screens?  No doubt Israel would prevail but I doubt it would be livable afterward.
G.

Turks are not Semites, they are Altai. Us Indo-Europeans will watch from the sidelines.

In as far as they aren't greek trough intermingling.

[Martinus]

Yeah, especially the Turkish Semites.

[Martinus]

Incidently I thought the Altaic family was a somewhat contentious one.

Only on aunt Zelda's side.

[Siege]

Muslims never cease to amuse.
Interesting how they keep miscalculating after so many defeats.

I think down inside it all comes down a culture of misreporting and conspircy theories.

For example, the Yom Kippur War. The egyptians to this day claim a victory. This is a political and cultural necesity for them.
But this means misreporting, exagerating egyptian limited initial suceess in the war, while minimizing the israeli drive into the heart of egypt, while outflanking and encircling an entire egiptian army group.
Now, the turks know the israeli version, but because of the middle eastern mentallity of conspiracy theories, they disregard the israeli version off hand as an israeli conspiracy.

[Viking]

Muslims never cease to amuse.
Interesting how they keep miscalculating after so many defeats.

I think down inside it all comes down a culture of misreporting and conspircy theories.

For example, the Yom Kippur War. The egyptians to this day claim a victory. This is a political and cultural necesity for them.
But this means misreporting, exagerating egyptian limited initial suceess in the war, while minimizing the israeli drive into the heart of egypt, while outflanking and encircling an entire egiptian army group.
Now, the turks know the israeli version, but because of the middle eastern mentallity of conspiracy theories, they disregard the israeli version off hand as an israeli conspiracy.

Talking to an Egyptian (while in Egypt nonetheless) about the mid east the wars came up and I casually made some point about how, even when catching the Israelis with their pants down in 1973, they failed. She blinked and claimed that Egypt had won the war. I was amazed. She claimed the Egyptian Army beat the Israeli one. The Wikipedia page about the Yom Kippur War was part of an Israeli conspiracy, apparently. I asked why the Egyptians why they didn't liberate the Palestinians after beating the IDF. She told me that it was up to the Palestinians to liberate themselves.

I didn't really realize what was going on in her head until I went to the Egyptian Army Museum in the Cairo Citadel. The 6 day war was not mentioned at all and the Yom Kippur War ended when the Egyptian Army Crossed the Bar-Lev line. Her view of Mubarak was that "he's a good man".

Pretending you won might make you feel good about yourself and with some cognitive dissonance you might get away with it, but conducting a real inquiry not only into what went wrong but what went right as well is more conducive to winning the next war.

[The Brain]

Fact: their culture is inferior to Western culture.