What do YOU love about Islam and the Propet Muhammed (PBUH)?

[Faeelin]

Pff. Urbanization, literacy rates, long distance trade, in short all the signs of civilization were pretty much gone in the early medieval era and you know it.

Depends on where you are at don't it?

Not so much. Visigothic Spain was a wreck with little sign of recovery, Italy had been pasted by the Lombards, and England, well, we're talking about a place that lost the ability to make a pottery wheel for a while.

Sure, there were places that were better off than others, but even North African urban civilization was toast by this point.

[The Minsky Moment]

Oh, the Islamic agriculturlal revolution; given its role in helping revive medieval Europe...

I don't know why everybody shits all over medieval Europe all the time.  It was not like the Franks were living in caves and wearing animal skins.

Ahem.

http://www.france-for-visitors.com/loire/saumur/troglodyte-dwellings.html

[Malthus]

Oh, the Islamic agriculturlal revolution; given its role in helping revive medieval Europe...

I don't know why everybody shits all over medieval Europe all the time.  It was not like the Franks were living in caves and wearing animal skins.

Ahem.

http://www.france-for-visitors.com/loire/saumur/troglodyte-dwellings.html

Hey, Toronto downtown office workers live a troglodite existence today ...

http://www.toronto.ca/path/

[Grey Fox]

Oh, the Islamic agriculturlal revolution; given its role in helping revive medieval Europe...

I don't know why everybody shits all over medieval Europe all the time.  It was not like the Franks were living in caves and wearing animal skins.

Ahem.

http://www.france-for-visitors.com/loire/saumur/troglodyte-dwellings.html

Hey, Toronto downtown office workers live a troglodite existence today ...

http://www.toronto.ca/path/

Eh, Montreal's underground city is the city's #1 Tourist attraction.

[Malthus]

Eh, Montreal's underground city is the city's #1 Tourist attraction.

Typical Toronto-Montreal rivalry:

Toronto: "we're a bunch of troglodytes".

Montreal: "We're even more troglodytic than you!"

[Ed Anger]

You would need to go underground in Montreal to avoid being run over.

[Malthus]

You would need to go underground in Montreal to avoid being run over.

Heh, true enough: though horrible weather rather than horrible drivers is I think the inspiration. 

The underground (at least in Toronto) is wierd. Because it sort of grew piecemeal, it is very confusing - incredibly easy to get lost in that labyrinth. 

[Camerus]

When I used to work in tourism as a student in Toronto, we used to get tourists asking to see "the underground city."  They made it sound like something magnificent from Lord of the Rings, rather than the hum-drum assortment of small businesses and food courts it, in reality, mostly is.

[DisturbedPervert]

When I used to work in tourism as a student in Toronto, we used to get tourists asking to see "the underground city."  They made it sound like something magnificent from Lord of the Rings, rather than the hum-drum assortment of small businesses and food courts it, in reality, mostly is.

Oh.   

[Malthus]

When I used to work in tourism as a student in Toronto, we used to get tourists asking to see "the underground city."  They made it sound like something magnificent from Lord of the Rings, rather than the hum-drum assortment of small businesses and food courts it, in reality, mostly is.

That would be soooo disappointing.

In reality, Khazad-dûm is ... a Grand & Toy franchise and a Timothies full of burnt out office workers. 

[syk]

Döner, more groceries.