Most overrated WW2 commander

[Barrister]

I wasn't but it might be a good idea. For them. If they want to win.

You know, I think you're right.  I can't think of a single time when Canada was on the losing side of a war.   

[Razgovory]

I wasn't but it might be a good idea. For them. If they want to win.

You know, I think you're right.  I can't think of a single time when Canada was on the losing side of a war.   

Well, the Seven Years war.

[The Minsky Moment]

You know, I think you're right.  I can't think of a single time when Canada was on the losing side of a war.   

Canada lost several wars of national liberation against the British monarchical regime.  Sadly a major cause of the defeat each time was the widespread willingness of Canadians to collaborate with their royalist oppresors.  Not even the intervention of their free brethern to the South could swing the tide of victory.

[Admiral Yi]

You know, I think you're right.  I can't think of a single time when Canada was on the losing side of a war.   

Afghanistan.

[Barrister]

You know, I think you're right.  I can't think of a single time when Canada was on the losing side of a war.   

Afghanistan.

Don't think that war is over yet Yi.

[Richard Hakluyt]

And dammit, I don't want to ever have to defend the English ever again. 

I remember a US general making a similar point in the World at War televison series. He also noted that, so far, the American troops had had a rather boring time in England and were rather keen to have bash at the wehrmacht before the 3rd Reich ended. Meanwhile many of the British troops had been at it for years and were far more focussed on survival and getting home. If Monty and Patton had swapped personalities then one suspects that both sets of troops would have been rather pissed off 

[Razgovory]

Major Frost and his boys were pissed off as it was.

[Ed Anger]

Major Frost and his boys were pissed off as it was.

Grabner's death ride.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiiUJ4sDuX0

[Razgovory]

Great film.  I wonder if the SS actually stood up on their vehicles ram-rod stiff like that. 

[Kleves]

I mean, without us, as I mentioned before, you would still be trying to take St-Mere-Eglise.

St-Mere-Eglise fell to the paratroopers before the landings even took place.

[CountDeMoney]

After a heavy pondering that lasted 10 seconds, I went with MacArthur.

Does anyone rate MacArther highly?

Seedy.

Not really, no. 

[CountDeMoney]

re Zhukov I don't see how anyone who both successfully countered Manstein and the German Army at the front and Stalin at his back, and came through all of that alive, can be overrated.

Exactly.  The fact that he survived the entirety of the war without getting recalled to Moscow and getting a bullet in the back of his head for his efforts gives him a gold fucking star.

3. Patton - that degree of lack of self-control is a fatal flaw.  He is like the all-star level ballplayer that misses the key games of the season because he gets into bar fights after the game.

He was a fighter and he was a winner.

[Ideologue]

re Zhukov I don't see how anyone who both successfully countered Manstein and the German Army at the front and Stalin at his back, and came through all of that alive, can be overrated.

Exactly.  The fact that he survived the entirety of the war without getting recalled to Moscow and getting a bullet in the back of his head for his efforts gives him a gold fucking star.

Then Budyonyy also demands a gold star as well as a vat of wine to swim around in with hookers.

Verdict: UNDERRATED.

[CountDeMoney]

Oh, and Monty can eat the peanuts out of my star-spangled shit.  Fucker took years off Ike's life, just by being in the room.

[CountDeMoney]

re Zhukov I don't see how anyone who both successfully countered Manstein and the German Army at the front and Stalin at his back, and came through all of that alive, can be overrated.

Exactly.  The fact that he survived the entirety of the war without getting recalled to Moscow and getting a bullet in the back of his head for his efforts gives him a gold fucking star.

Then Budyonyy also demands a gold star as well as a vat of wine to swim around in with hookers.

Verdict: UNDERRATED.

Most Soviet generals deserve places in whore heaven.