Do You Support John Brown's Revolutionary Violence

[jimmy olsen]

Since John Brown has come up in the Oslo thread, and it's the 150 anniversary of the Civil War I think this is an appropriate question to ask.

EDIT: Dammit - Spelled Indecisive wrong.
Can you fix that Neil?

[Admiral Yi]

Not.  Zero tolerance for political violence in a democracy.

[Ed Anger]

I don't support Mike Brown.

[garbon]

Not.  Zero tolerance for political violence in a democracy.

This.

[jimmy olsen]

Not.  Zero tolerance for political violence in a democracy.

Then vote no.

[Capetan Mihali]

Not.  Zero tolerance for political violence in a democracy.

He was acting on behalf on the portion of the US that did not live in a democracy and in fact was literally enslaved by that democracy.  My answer is yes.  Considering the support the modern US has given to political violence in "democracies" (both with and without scare quotes), it has become the status quo.

[Ideologue]

Not.  Zero tolerance for political violence in a democracy.

Irrelevant.  1859 America was not a democracy.

Anyway, voted yes, enslavement is an evil that justifies and encourages any method of destroying it, and makes any aspect of its system a valid target.  Only practical concerns even dictate permitting surrender instead of extermination; no moral ones do.

[Neil]

Ide is kind of weird.

[jimmy olsen]

Thanks Neil!

[Faeelin]

Not.  Zero tolerance for political violence in a democracy.

How far does this extend? Would you have also opposed a slave revolt?

[Admiral Yi]

How far does this extend? Would you have also opposed a slave revolt?

Good question.  I have no quick answer.  At least not one that's consistent with my first post.

[AnchorClanker]

I'm not thriled with your editorializing of the options - but no, I do not support the revolutionary violence.
It has nothing to do with liking slavery, but liking rule of law and order.

[Oexmelin]

But then, slavery is used to beg the question: what do you do when law and order support an unjust regime, even if a democracy? You wait?

[Admiral Yi]

But then, slavery is used to beg the question: what do you do when law and order support an unjust regime, even if a democracy? You wait?

You reason, you persuade.

[Valmy]

I'm not thriled with your editorializing of the options - but no, I do not support the revolutionary violence.
It has nothing to do with liking slavery, but liking rule of law and order.

So laws should be supported even when they define people as property?  Tyranny is just so long as 51% of the population are fine with it?

Well actually sometimes it was less than 50%.  A few of the SOuthern States the majority of the male population were slaves.

But ok I guess it is Democratic and just so long as the laws say what minority gets to call all the shots.