Bailout recipients to face criminal charges (???)

Started by Caliga, April 21, 2009, 07:24:06 AM

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Caliga

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the situation?

a) Government gives a company bailout money with virtually no guidelines or strings attached aside from potential part-ownership.

b) Company spends money "unwisely"

c) Company officers can now go to jail

Is this right?  :huh:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/21/news/economy/tarp_cop_barofsky/index.htm?postversion=2009042103
QuoteTARP cop: 20 criminal probes
Watchdog overseeing $700 billion bailout reveals his progress reviewing how money has been spent and calls for changes to prevent fraud.

By Jennifer Liberto, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: April 21, 2009: 5:10 AM ET

Inspector general Neil Barofsky says he is aiming to bring 'transparency' to the bailout program.

WASHINGTON (CNNMoney.com) -- The top cop tracking the government's $700 billion bailout program said Tuesday that he has opened 20 criminal investigations and six audits into whether tax dollars are being pilfered or wasted.

Neil Barofsky, the special inspector general overseeing the Troubled Asset Relief Program, released a 250-page report detailing a long list of concerns about government efforts to prop up hundreds of banks, Wall Street firms and auto companies.

Barofsky, whose investigations could lead to criminal charges, told CNNMoney.com in an interview that he wants taxpayers to understand where their money is going. At the same time, he wants to alert officials to weaknesses in TARP that could invite corruption or fraud.

"Our recommendations are forward looking and there are no vulnerabilities that can't be addressed," Barofsky said. "The balance of what we're trying to do is to inform, bring transparency and make appropriate recommendations."

The report reveals that Barofsky is looking into whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them and whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay.

Barofsky's report also makes several recommendations to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and other officials charged with implementing the bailout. Among them: Require all TARP recipients to detail how they use bailout dollars and safeguard a new mortgage rescue effort against scams.

The report comes as public outcry over government bailouts is mounting. The Treasury Department is under increasing pressure to protect tax dollars even as it attempts to repair the financial markets - agendas that are often at odds with each other.

Geithner is set to appear Tuesday before a separate congressional watchdog group, the five-member Congressional Oversight Panel, which released its own oversight report two weeks ago.

The overall bailout scrutiny is wearing on the financial sector and, one expert said, has caused confusion over the government's unprecedented entanglement with the private sector.

"It's become chic to demand more oversight of how the government is spending money to stabilize the financial system, yet we already have so many oversight entities in place, that it's hard to say who's responsible for ensuring how the money is spent," said Jaret Seiberg, policy analyst at Concept Capital's Washington Research Group.

Barofsky, in the interview, insisted his goal is to inform the public that someone is minding the store and that bailout programs are not a "black hole."

"It's not trillions of dollars going out the door without anyone keeping tabs on it," said Barofsky, who will testify before Congress on Thursday about his findings.

As an inspector general, Barofsky has legal firepower. He can use subpoenas to compel disclosure and is tasked by federal law to track the details of how banks are spending taxpayer dollars.

Barofsky, appointed by then-President Bush last November, has so far hired 35 members of a staff he expects to grow to 150. Currently working out of the main Treasury compound next to the White House, Barofsky and his staff are securing their own offices in the same building in downtown Washington that houses the Treasury staffers that administer TARP.

Barofsky, 38, is a former federal prosecutor from New York who spent years chasing after white-collar criminals, organized crime figures and drug traffickers. In one recent high-profile case, he prosecuted a trading firm that filed for bankruptcy a few months after raising millions in its initial public offering. The chief financial officer of that company, Refco, pled guilty to fraud and money laundering last year.

Red flags and recommendations
Barofsky told CNNMoney.com that he believes one of his report's most urgent recommendations is that Treasury develop a system to better figure out the value of the different types of shares it now owns in financial institutions.

The Treasury has invested hundreds of billions in companies in exchange for shares of preferred stock.

He said the need to better understand the value of the government shares is even more important now that the administration is considering a plan to convert preferred shares into common shares, which is the kind of stock that consumers usually hold.

"There needs to be asset valuation strategy so the Treasury can make the most informed decisions," Barofsky said. "I don't think anything bad has happened, but it's time for them to do that."

The report also warns federal officials, in great detail, against expanding a Federal Reserve-run program to allow investors to use cheap government financing to purchase questionable mortgage-backed securities. The program poses "significant fraud risks," according to the report.

In addition, Barofsky also warns federal officials to create safeguards barring conflicts of interest among banks and investors participating in the new Public- Private Investment Program to prevent "collusion between participants, and vulnerabilities to money laundering."

Finally, he said he is concerned about the Obama administration's nascent mortgage rescue program, which aims to help millions of homeowners get affordable loans. He's worried that the program could spur a wave of real estate fraud and suggests officials take steps to confirm the identities of participants and make sure homeowners know that they aren't required to pay fees to take part.

Barofsky's report did not detail the 20 criminal investigations, which it said "vary widely" and include securities fraud, tax, insider trading and public corruption matters. He has previously reported working with New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo to investigate how bonuses were given to high-ranking employees of American International Group (AIG, Fortune 500).

The report also says that the $182 billion AIG bailout is the subject of two separate audits. One is looking at federal oversight of the bonuses. The other is probing bailout disbursements to AIG counterparties who had purchased insurance-like products from AIG.
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KRonn

Who knows - the whole thing is a mess and the government, legislators and Treasury have been fumbling and trying to figure it out since last Autumn when it started under the Bush admin. I just hope it gets sorted out properly and doesn't turn into a witch hunt and kangaroo court, well, even more than it has in some cases.

The Minsky Moment

I'm familiar with Barofsky from his old job.  Guy is a bit off his rocker.  Thinks he is the reincarnation of Eliot Ness or something.  He has been shooting his mouth off like this for a few weeks now. 

My theory is that the Bush people appointed him b/c they wanted to drive Obama nuts and they knew Obama wouldn't have the balls to fire him.
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dps

Quote from: Caliga on April 21, 2009, 07:24:06 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the situation?

a) Government gives a company bailout money with virtually no guidelines or strings attached aside from potential part-ownership.

b) Company spends money "unwisely"

c) Company officers can now go to jail

Is this right?  :huh:

Of course it's not right, but it is comical, especially seeing as how if those companies had been managed wisely, they wouldn't have needed the bailouts in the first place.  But I love the irony:  "We're going to reward your incompetance by giving you bucketloads of the taxpayers' money.  Oh, by-the-way, you can now go to jail for that incompetance."  Ok, that's not exactly the story, but it's amusing to spin it that way.

Admiral Yi

QuoteThe report reveals that Barofsky is looking into whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them and whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay.
Cal: this part makes me think he's investigating companies that might have cheated on the one string that was attached to the original TARP and conflict of interest by Treasury officials.  Not exactly the same as jailing them for spending money unwisely.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 21, 2009, 01:55:15 PM
QuoteThe report reveals that Barofsky is looking into whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them and whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay.
Cal: this part makes me think he's investigating companies that might have cheated on the one string that was attached to the original TARP and conflict of interest by Treasury officials.  Not exactly the same as jailing them for spending money unwisely.

So far I don't see much in the way of investigations, or for that matter, even a description of what investigations are planned.  What I see is someone in an inspectorate role, who is turning himself into a policy entrepeneur, and making policy recs to the Treasury that are way outside his remit.  What I see is someone who has mastered the art of getting newspaper headlines and expanding his bureaucratic authority - how exactly that connects to the ultimate public interest is decidedly less clear.
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The Brain

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The Minsky Moment

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Quote from: The Brain on April 21, 2009, 02:48:21 PM
You don't happen to see where I put my keys this morning? :(

Yes, but I am not interested in enabling you further in your exhibitionist perversions.
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Caliga

Quote from: dps on April 21, 2009, 09:32:20 AM
Of course it's not right

Sorry, when I said "is this right?" I meant "do I understand it correctly?", not "Is this immoral/illegal/evil/etc.?" -_-
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DontSayBanana

I don't see what the big deal is. They were bound by contract to limit executive pay. They're going after people who breached that clause of the contract and people who embezzled, which is a prosecutable offense whether it's TARP money or not. I agree we could do with glamorizing the situation less, but I don't see that Barofsky's actually doing anything wrong.
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The Minsky Moment

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Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 21, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. They were bound by contract to limit executive pay. They're going after people who breached that clause of the contract and people who embezzled, which is a prosecutable offense whether it's TARP money or not. I agree we could do with glamorizing the situation less, but I don't see that Barofsky's actually doing anything wrong.

Let's look at what the man said:
QuoteThe report reveals that Barofsky is looking into whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them and whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay.

1. "whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them" -- what exactly is the problem with that?  Since when did exercise of the First Amendment right to the petition the government become a criminal offense.  Of course bailout decisions are influenced by those who stand to benefit.  A bank exec or shareholder facing insolvency would have to be an idiot not to seek government help if it is available.

2.  "whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay" - For the sake of argument, let's say some companies aren't adhering to the cap.  Why is that ipso facto a criminal offense (as opposed to a civil violation)?  There is no provision in the TARP legislation I am aware of that expands criminal penalties.

BTW did I forget to add that as an arm of the Treasury department, the TARP Inspectorate General has exactly zero authority to bring criminal prosections?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

DontSayBanana

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 21, 2009, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 21, 2009, 04:09:18 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. They were bound by contract to limit executive pay. They're going after people who breached that clause of the contract and people who embezzled, which is a prosecutable offense whether it's TARP money or not. I agree we could do with glamorizing the situation less, but I don't see that Barofsky's actually doing anything wrong.

Let's look at what the man said:
QuoteThe report reveals that Barofsky is looking into whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them and whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay.

1. "whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them" -- what exactly is the problem with that?  Since when did exercise of the First Amendment right to the petition the government become a criminal offense.  Of course bailout decisions are influenced by those who stand to benefit.  A bank exec or shareholder facing insolvency would have to be an idiot not to seek government help if it is available.

2.  "whether companies receiving bailout dollars are adhering to caps on executive pay" - For the sake of argument, let's say some companies aren't adhering to the cap.  Why is that ipso facto a criminal offense (as opposed to a civil violation)?  There is no provision in the TARP legislation I am aware of that expands criminal penalties.

BTW did I forget to add that as an arm of the Treasury department, the TARP Inspectorate General has exactly zero authority to bring criminal prosections?

As to point 1, I read it as his phrasing sucked, but he was talking about theft by deception by those who were not facing insolvency.

I'll concede point 2 that breach of contract is a civil violation, and that's where the "bread and circuses" I was describing come into play, since it would be pretty straightforward to get a judgment for a breach of contract that blatant, and since the damage is already in convenient monetary form, the discovery period would be substantially shortened.
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dps

Quote from: Caliga on April 21, 2009, 03:11:38 PM
Quote from: dps on April 21, 2009, 09:32:20 AM
Of course it's not right

Sorry, when I said "is this right?" I meant "do I understand it correctly?", not "Is this immoral/illegal/evil/etc.?" -_-

Well, that wouldn't really change my answer.     :D

Admiral Yi

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 21, 2009, 05:11:25 PM
1. "whether bailout decisions were influenced by those who stood to benefit from them" -- what exactly is the problem with that?  Since when did exercise of the First Amendment right to the petition the government become a criminal offense.  Of course bailout decisions are influenced by those who stand to benefit.  A bank exec or shareholder facing insolvency would have to be an idiot not to seek government help if it is available.
Like I said, the only problem I can see is if Treasury officials who were covered by conflict of interest rules failed to recuse themselves.