Rainy Weather Forecasts Misunderstood by Many

Started by garbon, April 20, 2009, 08:46:11 PM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090420/sc_livescience/rainyweatherforecastsmisunderstoodbymany

QuoteTo bring an umbrella or not to bring an umbrella? That's the perennial question on those days where the chance of rain is less than 100 percent.

But only half the population understands what a precipitation forecast means well enough to make a fully informed answer, a new study finds.

If, for example, a forecast calls for a 20 percent chance of rain, many people think it means that it will rain over 20 percent of the area covered by the forecast. Others think it will rain for 20 percent of the time, said Susan Joslyn, a cognitive psychologist at the University of Washington who conducted the study.

The reality: "When a forecast says there is a 20 percent chance of rain tomorrow it actually means it will rain on 20 percent of the days with exactly the same atmospheric conditions," Joslyn explained.

Put another way, on that day there's an 80 percent chance there will be no rain anywhere in the forecast area.

To test people's understanding of these precipitation forecasts (known as probability of precipitation and used in public forecasts since the late 1960s), Joslyn and her colleagues tested more than 450 Pacific Northwest college students in a series of experiments.

The first experiment evaluated forecasts of either a low or a high percentage chance of precipitation accompanied by a series of icons, or "precipicons," that were visual representations of the chance of rain. The precipicons included the familiar cloud symbols used by many forecasting outlets, as well as pie charts and bar graphs.

Each student only saw one icon and forecast, and filled out a questionnaire.

Two of the questions asked for how long it would rain and over what areas. Only 43 percent of the students correctly responded with the choice "can't tell from this forecast."

Those who responded incorrectly were more likely to say they'd wear a jacket or bring an umbrella, suggesting they thought it was definitely going to rain.

In another experiment, the participants saw one of three forecasts: One had the typical chance of rain; the second had the chance of rain and the chance of no rain; and the third had a pie chart below the chance of rain.

This time, 52 percent of the students correctly interpreted the forecast, and the odds of incorrectly judging the forecast were lower when the chance of no rain was included.

Joslyn said that the research, funded by the National Science Foundation and detailed in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, shows the difficulty of making decisions where uncertainty is involved. People find it easier, she said, to simplify the situation to a single outcome: that it will definitely rain, but not for the whole day or the whole area.

And understanding of how forecasts are interpreted could be useful to government officials who have to decide on school closings, road closures and other potentially expensive measures.
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Elementary schools need to spend more time on basic math skills.
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I think it has less to do with basic math, than the proper interpretation of numbers in regards to the context.

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".....the difficulty of making decisions where uncertainty is involved" a profound insight  :huh:

vinraith

Probability is probably the most misunderstood commonly taught mathematical concept. Part of the problem is that the human brain has a fundamental defect regarding the way hits and misses are recorded and analyzed...

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QuoteTwo of the questions asked for how long it would rain and over what areas. Only 43 percent of the students correctly responded with the choice "can't tell from this forecast."

43%, not bad.  :thumbsup:

Caliga

Quote from: vinraith on April 21, 2009, 01:31:50 AM
Probability is probably the most misunderstood commonly taught mathematical concept. Part of the problem is that the human brain has a fundamental defect regarding the way hits and misses are recorded and analyzed...

Is this somehow related to pattern recognition/pareidolia?
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QuoteThose who responded incorrectly were more likely to say they'd wear a jacket or bring an umbrella, suggesting they thought it was definitely going to rain.

:unsure:  I don't see how this would suggest a person would think it was definitely going to rain.  I'll sometimes take a jacket if there's a possibility of rain in the forecast....not because I'm sure it's going to happen, but because if it does, I don't want to get rained on.  Maybe I'm weird? 

Of course, I also always leave the jacket in the car because hey it's sunny and nice, right?  And it is...until I want to walk back to the car.

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Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 21, 2009, 01:42:06 AM
QuoteTwo of the questions asked for how long it would rain and over what areas. Only 43 percent of the students correctly responded with the choice "can't tell from this forecast."

43%, not bad.  :thumbsup:

But that's only 43% of the students given those atmospheric conditions.
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Quote from: Caliga on April 21, 2009, 04:56:15 AM
Quote from: vinraith on April 21, 2009, 01:31:50 AM
Probability is probably the most misunderstood commonly taught mathematical concept. Part of the problem is that the human brain has a fundamental defect regarding the way hits and misses are recorded and analyzed...

Is this somehow related to pattern recognition/pareidolia?

They're similar cognitive failures, certainly, but I don't know the neurology well enough to tell you how related they really are.

Phil Plaitt had a nice fusion of the two up on his site this morning, I'll attach it here. Which pattern do you think was produced randomly?


The whole article is here, and is interesting if a bit basic.

Martinus

Quote from: vinraith on April 21, 2009, 01:31:50 AM
Probability is probably the most misunderstood commonly taught mathematical concept. Part of the problem is that the human brain has a fundamental defect regarding the way hits and misses are recorded and analyzed...
Yuppers.

For example a lot of people make the same mistake when answering the following question:

Take a perfectly balanced coin, with a result of it being thrown being 50% chance of tails and 50% chance of heads.

You make two throws with the coin. The first throw comes as "tails". What is the chance of getting "tails" on your second throw.

True ignoramuses may even answer "none at all", but many not-so-stupid people would answer 25%.  ;)

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