51st state? California politician pushes secession plan

[Admiral Yi]

Cite?

Look at the same source you used to come up with all the crap you posted at the beginning of the thread.

[ulmont]

When Texas joined up, wasn't there a clause that they could split up into multiple states, or am I remembering that wrong?

Yeah. They can split into 5 according to the annexation act.

Overridden by the Civil War.

[MadImmortalMan]

Overridden by the Civil War.

Not unless you count the secession as legal, and we don't.

[Razgovory]

Cite?

Look at the same source you used to come up with all the crap you posted at the beginning of the thread.

Please clarify.

[jimmy olsen]

Overridden by the Civil War.

Not unless you count the secession as legal, and we don't.

The rebel states were readmitted though. Doesn't the terms of their readmittance trump the original?

[Razgovory]

No take backs!

[garbon]

It looks like the proposal is to have southern california until approximately LA, and then exclude the coast up a bit further. So it isn't horribly geographically gerrymandered, but it isn't a strict north south split either. I don't know to the extent that captures the republican areas--but I guess it would get enough republicans out of the state legislature to keep them from blocking any tax increases.

It does capture a lot of the Repub areas; specifically San Diego and Orange Counties + the Inland Empire.

[Razgovory]

I think during the 19th century and perhaps the 20th several cities succeeded from their counties.  This turned out be an ill-advised move when the suburban sprawl happened.

[Tonitrus]

The entire purpose of the split is to create a Republican state. If they carve out a Democratic state from Texas, then sure. 

Metropolexas - A state consisting of the downtown areas of Austin, Houston, Ft Worth, Dallas as well as the campus area of U of Texas at Austin.

Although a more realistic option could be a state that encompass El Paso, Austin, San Antonio and the Rio Grande region. We could call it Tejas.

Then they can annex south and call themselves Aztlan.

[Martinus]

The entire purpose of the split is to create a Republican state. If they carve out a Democratic state from Texas, then sure. 

The entire stated purpose is to split off net revenue contributors from revenue consumers (i.e. LA).

What would be the population proportions of both states? Unless it is 50/50 it's hardly fair seeing how they would get the same number of senators.

[Neil]

The entire purpose of the split is to create a Republican state. If they carve out a Democratic state from Texas, then sure. 

The entire stated purpose is to split off net revenue contributors from revenue consumers (i.e. LA).

What would be the population proportions of both states? Unless it is 50/50 it's hardly fair seeing how they would get the same number of senators.

That's the whole point, goof.

[garbon]

The entire purpose of the split is to create a Republican state. If they carve out a Democratic state from Texas, then sure. 

The entire stated purpose is to split off net revenue contributors from revenue consumers (i.e. LA).

What would be the population proportions of both states? Unless it is 50/50 it's hardly fair seeing how they would get the same number of senators.

Unfair? Every state gets two senators. Not sure why this "Southern California" shouldn't get two if Delaware and Rhode Island get two.  San Diego alone is more populous than ether.

[grumbler]

What would be the population proportions of both states? Unless it is 50/50 it's hardly fair seeing how they would get the same number of senators.

That's the whole point, goof.

Give him a break.  In Poland, everyone theoretically gets the same number of taters, so Polacks think that that is the way everything works everywhere.

[Ed Anger]

lolz. polacks.

[PDH]

What's unfair is that Wyoming gets 2 senators!