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Dispatches from Durban II

Started by Sheilbh, April 20, 2009, 10:30:23 AM

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Sheilbh

The New Republic's blog, The Plank, has a reporter blogging from Durban II which I highly recommend.  They're interesting reading.  I like how lively Ahmedinejad's speech was:
QuoteDurban II Dispatch: Live-blogging Ahmedinejad

The Durban Review Conference kicked off this morning with some opening statements from the Secretary General and the Commissioner for Human Rights. After selecting a president for the conference and working out some logistical issues, we're on to the main event -- the "high-level segment," where heads of state and other political figures give 7-minute speeches. Up first? Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad.

I'm sitting here in the press box at the conference. Ahmedinejad just walked in.

There seems to be some confusion. He is walking to the seat of the Iranian delegation, not the stage. The chair of the conference seems confused. Ok, now he is finally being escorted to the podium. He begins speaking, thanking Allah.

Some activists are interrupting his speech. They are wearing clown wigs and red noses, and yelling "Racist! Racist" There seem to be three of them, in different parts of the hall. They've been escorted out by security guards. There is a loud applause, though it is unclear whether they are clapping for the activists or the guards.

He continues speaking through the whole fiasco. He is taking a lot of time to thank Allah and his prophets.

Now we're getting a lecture on the history of war, ending with WWII. He transitions into an indictment of the Security Council, questioning the motives of superpowers giving themselves veto powers. Enough of the subtlety -- he condemns their role in the creation of the state of Israel, and starts ripping into Zionism.

The EU is walking out! The entire France, Bulgarian, and Hungarian delegation just walked out. I think others walked out too -- can't see their placards. The press box is going crazy. The entire hall has erupted in applause -- some applauding the delegate who walked out, some applauding Ahemdinejad for continuing his anti-Israel tirade.

Ahmediniejad continues, condemning "the most racist regime," a litany of generic Israel canards. A group of Israeli students start yelling "Racist! Racist!" from the viewing gallery. No one seems to be stopping them. Two Iranian women in hijabs start waving their fists at them. After a few minutes, security finally arrives and escorts out one of the Israel students. Now another one has started yelling "Facist! Facist!"

Ahmediniejad is now ripping into America for invading Iraq. The usual stuff about arrogance and racism.

Now he's blaming the global economic crisis on the US. He's condeming US's selfishness and lack of transparency. He's even condemning the bank bailout plan!

Now he's veered into banal pronouncements about ignorance and history and racism and the creation of the universe and worshipping god.

Oops, he's back to Israel! "A kind of racism that has tarnished the image of humanity ... The word Zionism personifies racism that falsely resorts to religion and abuses religious sentiments to hide their hatred and ugly faces." And Jews control the media! And the major world powers! "Cultural endeavors are not enough. Efforts must be made to put an end to efforts made by Zionists and their supporters. ... Governments must be encouraged in their efforts and their fights to eradicate this barbaric racism."

Another protestor starts shouting from the plenary floor. He is quickly apprehended and silenced.

Now A-jad is talking about a changing of the global order, and the upending of traditional power structures. "Western liberalism and capitalism, like communism, has reached to its end since it has failed to perceive the truth of the world and humanity as it is."

Another protestor starts yelling "Racist!" and is quickly escorted out. Two hijab-clad women start waving and blowing kisses to A-jad.

Now he is back to the Security Council, calling for the elimination of the "discriminatory veto right." Some generic language about love and happiness and cooperation and overhauling the global monetary system. And finally, "Let us all join hands in amity ... in fulfillment of a decent new world." Amen.

UPDATE: The foreign minister of Norway is up next, and he is calling out A-jad, whose speech he says "threatens the very focus of the conference." The declaration of this conference included "the need to protect against incitement to hatred. I heard the messages inside the president's speech. I heard incitement and hatred. This is not a finger-pointing exercise. The president has made Iran the odd man out, and Norway will not accept the odd man out hijacking the efforts of the many. ... We cannot surrender the floor of the United Nations to extremism." Huge applause erupts in the hall.

[NOTE: My transcription is rough. I will update when official transcript is released.]

--Zvika Krieger

This sounds amazing.  I hope it gets good coverage on the news tonight.
Let's bomb Russia!

Sheilbh

Another good'un:
QuoteDurban II Dispatch: Libya on Trial

Geneva, Switzerland
Libya was chosen in 2007 to chair the preparatory committee for the UN Durban Review Conference--notwithstanding the irony of an egregious human-rights violator chairing a human rights conference. For the past three days, the committee has been holding sessions to finalize the conference's draft statement, upon which many countries will base their decision whether to attend the conference this week. On Friday, the last day, NGOs were given 30 minutes to weigh in.

Amidst the anti-Israel rants from all the usual NGOs, Libyan ambassador Najjat Al-Hajjaji (who was chairing the meeting) gave the floor to UN Watch, an organization affiliated with the American Jewish Committee that "monitors the performance of the United Nations by the yardstick of its own Charter." But sitting in their chair was not Hillel Neuer, the group's executive director and usual mouthpiece, but Ashraf El Hagog, the Palestinian doctor who was falsely accused of and sentenced to death for infecting hundreds of Libyan children with HIV (along with five Bulgarian nurses). El Hagog and the nurses were held in Libya on death row for nine years, mistreated and tortured, until their release was negotiated by France last year.

"Madame Chairman," El Hagog began, staring steely eyed at the Libyan ambassador. "I don't know if you recognize me. I am the Palestinian medical intern who was scapegoated by your country, Libya, in the HIV case in the Benghazi hospital, together with the five Bulgarian nurses."

Al-Hajjaji immediately started banging her gavel. "Stop... stop.... I ask you to stop," she yelled, first looking miffed, then exasperated. "You are, you are not addressing the agenda item... I will allow you to resume only if you address the agenda item we are discussing." The room immediately fell silent.

El Hagog, being coached by Neuer sitting next to him, tried to introduce some amendments to the statement "based on my own suffering," and was again interrupted by Al-Hajjaji banging her gavel. But he continued recounting the story of his torture, then said, "All of this, which lasted for nearly a decade, was for only one reason: because the Libyan government was looking to scapegoat foreigners. Madame Chair, if that is not discrimination, then what is?" After listing the amendments, he concluded: "Madame Chair, Libya told this conference that it practices no inequality or discrimination. But then how do you account for what was done to me, to my colleagues, and to my family...?" (Click here for a full transcript of his testimony.)

At this point, Hajjaji recognized a point of order from ... the Libyan delegation, who said that El Hagog was not speaking on the correct agenda item. Hajjaji used the objection as an excuse to move on to the next speaker.

I found Neuer on Saturday night at the UN Watch offices across the street from the UN compound, his hair rumpled and dressed in a t-shirt and sweats, working late into the night preparing for the upcoming Durban II conference. As one of the few NGOs that calls the UN on its human rights hypocrisy--particularly relating to Israel--Neuer does not often have reason to celebrate, so he could hardly contain his excitement over Friday's stunt. "The Libyans have been 'chozer b'teshuva,' they've repented--they're in with everybody these days," he said. "It is important to call them on this, to their face." Neuer had tipped off a Swiss television station, so they were on hand to film El Hagog's testimony; the story, billed on the broadcast as a UN Watch "coup d'eclat," led the news that night. (Click here for an English-language video of the incident.) "It's a small thing in the grand scheme of things," Neuer said. "But it's a rare moment that people are called on their bull crap in the UN."

I caught up with El Hagog at the Geneva Summit for Human Rights, Tolerance and Democracy today, where he read the section of his speech that was cut off by Hajjaji: "How can your government chair the planning committee for a world conference on discrimination, when it is on the list of the world's worst of the worst, when it comes to discrimination and human rights violations?"

He elaborated on his message to Libya and the UN: "It is disgusting for Libya to be the chair of a human rights conference at the UN. Shame on you, Libya." He said that, while he was in prison, he could handle the hanging, deprivation of food and sleep, and being raped by a police dog; what finally broke him was when they "finally threatened to torture my family in front of me," he said. "I was really scared of that." Upon his release, he was given Bulgarian citizenship, and is now committed to holding Libya accountable for their crimes. "I will remain, until the last moment of my life, as a stone in their throats."
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Let's bomb Russia!

Malthus

[Brain] Nothing like a little dog-rape to start a conference off right. [/Brain]

Gads, what a circus.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Sheilbh

Quote from: Malthus on April 20, 2009, 10:49:15 AM
Gads, what a circus.
Better than last time when Jewish groups, and sane governments either boycotted or didn't make a show of their opposition.  Far, far better, in fact.
Let's bomb Russia!

The Minsky Moment

But what the purpose of the thing?
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Valmy

I think it is great we have an international conference to advance hatred of Israel, Jews, and the United States.  There is clearly a shortage of that in the world today.
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garbon

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 20, 2009, 11:06:02 AM
But what the purpose of the thing?

This convention is part of a set of failures that will eventually reach a critical mass and kill the UN.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
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Faeelin

Quote from: Valmy on April 20, 2009, 11:07:44 AM
I think it is great we have an international conference to advance hatred of Israel, Jews, and the United States.  There is clearly a shortage of that in the world today.

Why are you here posting?

Shouldn't you be out on your honeymoon or something?

Valmy

Quote from: Faeelin on April 20, 2009, 11:13:27 AM
Why are you here posting?

Shouldn't you be out on your honeymoon or something?


We are leaving for our Honeymoon on Thursday.  I am at work right now, that is why I am posting :P
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Neil

Quote from: Faeelin on April 20, 2009, 11:13:27 AM
Why are you here posting?

Shouldn't you be out on your honeymoon or something?
There's nothing wrong with posting on Languish.
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Barrister

Quote from: Sheilbh on April 20, 2009, 10:52:45 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 20, 2009, 10:49:15 AM
Gads, what a circus.
Better than last time when Jewish groups, and sane governments either boycotted or didn't make a show of their opposition.  Far, far better, in fact.

I'm not so sure of that.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

Jacob

I'm with Sheilbh.

Throwing up your hands in exasperation and saying "you guys are beyond the pale, we're not even going to bother with all your bullshit and shenanigans" is conceding control of the terms of the discussion to the demagogues and hatemongers.  For the West and allies of actual human rights and freedom to prevail it needs to be engaged in this sort of stuff fully, calling people on their shit and arguing convincingly for what is right.  When Ahmedinedjad spews bullshit, it needs to be followed by someone saying "that is bullshit" (as Norway did), not by people saying "ok, you we'll let you and your cronies speak for the UN on human rights because you're so full of shit so we can't be bothered to respond."

jimmy olsen

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Malthus

Quote from: Jacob on April 20, 2009, 01:17:39 PM
I'm with Sheilbh.

Throwing up your hands in exasperation and saying "you guys are beyond the pale, we're not even going to bother with all your bullshit and shenanigans" is conceding control of the terms of the discussion to the demagogues and hatemongers.  For the West and allies of actual human rights and freedom to prevail it needs to be engaged in this sort of stuff fully, calling people on their shit and arguing convincingly for what is right.  When Ahmedinedjad spews bullshit, it needs to be followed by someone saying "that is bullshit" (as Norway did), not by people saying "ok, you we'll let you and your cronies speak for the UN on human rights because you're so full of shit so we can't be bothered to respond."

Dunno if I agree or not. The problem is the familiar one: that if the level of discourse is the protest and the invective, or manuverings in committees, the bad guys will always be better at it, since they have no real sense that the other guy might have a legitimate argument - this is just another field of conflict for them, they really do care nothing about "human rights".

So if it comes to shouting and grandstanding at circus-like "conferences", they will always shout the loudest and most whole-heartedly. Why engage them on *their* terms?
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Neil

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 20, 2009, 01:26:25 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 20, 2009, 10:37:26 AM
Another good'un:
raped by a police dog

Jesus Christ! :bleeding:
I have a hard time feeling bad for that terrorist asshole.
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