California lawmakers pass bill to teach gay history

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Neil

#300
July 12, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
Don't forget Asia.  And Russia.  And Vancouver.

And I don't think that straights really have to deal with gays much, unless you're unfortunate enough to be in an area that is heavily gay.
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garbon

#301
July 12, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
Quote from: Neil on July 12, 2011, 05:13:58 PM
Don't forget Asia.  And Russia.  And Vancouver.

I wasn't trying to be exhaustive, just providing a counterpoint.
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Agelastus

#302
July 12, 2011, 05:15:56 PM
Harvey Milk? Assuming it's not a cultural joke that's going over my head, who is (or was) he? :huh:
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garbon

#303
July 12, 2011, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on July 12, 2011, 05:15:56 PM
Harvey Milk? Assuming it's not a cultural joke that's going over my head, who is (or was) he? :huh:

I don't think they've made an anime about it yet.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Agelastus

#304
July 12, 2011, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 12, 2011, 05:17:29 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on July 12, 2011, 05:15:56 PM
Harvey Milk? Assuming it's not a cultural joke that's going over my head, who is (or was) he? :huh:

I don't think they've made an anime about it yet.

You'll note that my rep is also that of a student of history; I've still never heard of this guy though.
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The Best is yet to be
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DGuller

#305
July 12, 2011, 05:28:11 PM
I first heard about Harvey Milk in my advanced economics class, in relation to the twinkie defense, which itself was in relation to the discussion of the legal system.

garbon

#306
July 12, 2011, 05:34:48 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on July 12, 2011, 05:22:08 PM
You'll note that my rep is also that of a student of history; I've still never heard of this guy though.

I'm happy for you?
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#307
July 12, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on July 12, 2011, 05:15:56 PM
Harvey Milk? Assuming it's not a cultural joke that's going over my head, who is (or was) he? :huh:

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I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Agelastus

#308
July 12, 2011, 06:55:30 PM
So, three people being cleverdicks instead of answering my question forced me to revert to Google, no doubt their intent.

I now know who Harvey Milk was; a man that another man was so determined to see dead that the other man splattered Milk's brains across the floor by using hollow point bullets at a ridiculously close range. I'm sure the knowledge may be of some use to me. :unsure:
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Ed Anger

#309
July 12, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
Dan White is a hero to the republic.
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garbon

#310
July 12, 2011, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
Dan White is a hero to the republic.

Not really. He made a gay martyr.  Milk would be hardly adored if he hadn't been so graphically killed.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Razgovory

#311
July 12, 2011, 08:06:31 PM Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 08:11:36 PM by Razgovory
Quote from: garbon on July 12, 2011, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 12, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
Dan White is a hero to the republic.

Not really. He made a gay martyr.  Milk would be hardly adored if he hadn't been so graphically killed.

Well, he is adored by idiots.  White probably didn't kill Milk because he was gay.  The mayor wasn't gay, and the two other board members he intended to kill weren't gay (at least I don't think so).  It seems to have been a spree killing by a man with a grudge and a few screws loose.

Rohm would make a better martyr for the gay cause.  His homosexuality was at least the nominal reason for his assassination.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Ed Anger

#312
July 12, 2011, 08:09:38 PM
I like the cut of your jib.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

garbon

#313
July 12, 2011, 08:11:46 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 12, 2011, 08:06:31 PM
Well, he is adored by idiots.  White probably didn't kill Milk because he was gay.  The mayor wasn't gay, and the two other board members he intended to kill weren't gay (at least I don't think so).  It seems to have been a spree killing by a man with a grudge and a few screws loose.

It doesn't really matter why he was killed but rather that he was killed. Rather dramatic end for the first publicly elected gay official in California.  Anyway, I tend to agree that they are. I don't really see why he's consider that important. Portrayals make him seem like an asshole.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

#314
July 12, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
After all Raz, Versace wasn't likely killed for his sexuality either but that didn't really make it less of a to-do.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.
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