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Started by Josephus, June 25, 2011, 07:47:46 AM

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Viking

Quote from: Drakken on June 25, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Possessing or accessing hentai material, even online, is indeed practically illegal in Canada, thanks to R. vs. Sharpe.

Ridiculous I know, that someone could be put on the sex offender registry for watching naughty purple tentacles, but it's considered child pornography.

WTF? While Hentai is not my cup of cha, banning cartoons whether of Mohammed or of Schoolgirls being raped by cephalapods is just unacceptable.

I used to like Canada, what with their bacon, beer, violent sports, universal health care and all round accepting attitude towards Icelandic immigrants (WTF, K.D. Lang?)
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A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Barrister

Quote from: Viking on June 26, 2011, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 25, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Possessing or accessing hentai material, even online, is indeed practically illegal in Canada, thanks to R. vs. Sharpe.

Ridiculous I know, that someone could be put on the sex offender registry for watching naughty purple tentacles, but it's considered child pornography.

WTF? While Hentai is not my cup of cha, banning cartoons whether of Mohammed or of Schoolgirls being raped by cephalapods is just unacceptable.

I used to like Canada, what with their bacon, beer, violent sports, universal health care and all round accepting attitude towards Icelandic immigrants (WTF, K.D. Lang?)

I've spent a lot of time in the largest icelandic town outside of Iceland - Gimli, Manitoba.   :cool:

But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?
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Iormlund

Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

I don't know. Maybe because there's no actual victim?

Viking

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Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM

I've spent a lot of time in the largest icelandic town outside of Iceland - Gimli, Manitoba.   :cool:

But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

What's next, the banning of text depicting child rape?

To be honest I would have thought there were more than 6 thousand icelanders in copenhagen... There are about 1000 of us here in Trondheim.
First Maxim - "There are only two amounts, too few and enough."
First Corollary - "You cannot have too many soldiers, only too few supplies."
Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

Josquius

#34
Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
I've spent a lot of time in the largest icelandic town outside of Iceland - Gimli, Manitoba.   :cool:

But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

Paedos can't help what they're attracted to anymore than people with more acceptable desires. The only problem is them acting on their desires involves harming innocent kids
With cartoon porn no kids get hurt and it gives them some way to indulge their passion without needing porn that involves real kids or even hunting out kids themselves.

I suppose there is the train of thought that this will simply lead them on, make them crave ever stronger stuff as they become immune to the cartoon porn, perhaps even lead otherwise decent people down the road of child porn. But....nah. Not if someone just has a few dirty pictures. Maybe if they're a depraved child rape hentai addict.
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The Brain

Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

Or text. We should burn all Game of Thrones books.
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Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

I thought we were trying to protect children from being used in the sex trade...I am less convinced we need to protect fictional characters from abuse.
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Quote from: The Brain on June 26, 2011, 08:15:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

Or text. We should burn all Game of Thrones books.

Well, technically, depictions of underage sex in text is illegal, in Canada at least. I remember there was a fairly well publicized case many years ago, in B.C. I think, of some old guy who got charged with having drawings and text of kids in sexual activities, much of which he drew/wrote himself.

I think GoT and other things can get away with it because they are classified as "artistic or somesuch". My memory is vague about the whole thing, but I remember there were lots of editorials and commentary about it because it gave the courts a fair bit of power in deciding what is art and what is smut.
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Valmy

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Quote from: Josephus on June 26, 2011, 09:44:31 PM
Well, technically, depictions of underage sex in text is illegal, in Canada at least. I remember there was a fairly well publicized case many years ago, in B.C. I think, of some old guy who got charged with having drawings and text of kids in sexual activities, much of which he drew/wrote himself.

It is illegal to fantasize about illegal activity in Canada?

QuoteI think GoT and other things can get away with it because they are classified as "artistic or somesuch". My memory is vague about the whole thing, but I remember there were lots of editorials and commentary about it because it gave the courts a fair bit of power in deciding what is art and what is smut.

What a bunch of shit.  So it is ok so long as it gets published in another country and imported where a publishing company makes money.  But if you make it on your own you are a criminal.  How arbitrary is that?  If Canada really feels that fantasy people under 18 fantasy years having fantasy sex is a a travesty that must be stamped out they should at least enforce it fairly.
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Quote from: Tyr on June 26, 2011, 07:14:09 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
I've spent a lot of time in the largest icelandic town outside of Iceland - Gimli, Manitoba.   :cool:

But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

Paedos can't help what they're attracted to anymore than people with more acceptable desires.

Bullshit.
Posts here are my own private opinions.  I do not speak for my employer.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 11:46:45 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 26, 2011, 07:14:09 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
I've spent a lot of time in the largest icelandic town outside of Iceland - Gimli, Manitoba.   :cool:

But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

Paedos can't help what they're attracted to anymore than people with more acceptable desires.

Bullshit.
You think it's a conscious choice rather than some sort of biological or psychological defect?
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Ideologue

Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
Quote from: Viking on June 26, 2011, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 25, 2011, 10:25:51 AM
Possessing or accessing hentai material, even online, is indeed practically illegal in Canada, thanks to R. vs. Sharpe.

Ridiculous I know, that someone could be put on the sex offender registry for watching naughty purple tentacles, but it's considered child pornography.

WTF? While Hentai is not my cup of cha, banning cartoons whether of Mohammed or of Schoolgirls being raped by cephalapods is just unacceptable.

I used to like Canada, what with their bacon, beer, violent sports, universal health care and all round accepting attitude towards Icelandic immigrants (WTF, K.D. Lang?)

I've spent a lot of time in the largest icelandic town outside of Iceland - Gimli, Manitoba.   :cool:

But such issues are hardly a "no-brainer".  If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

No, sir.  That there's a no-brainer.
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Martinus

Quote from: Valmy on June 26, 2011, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 26, 2011, 06:40:08 PM
If we feel that depictions of explicit child sex are forbidden when shown live, why should they be okay in cartoon format?

I thought we were trying to protect children from being used in the sex trade...I am less convinced we need to protect fictional characters from abuse.

I just find it funny that an answer to what seems like a huge criminal law controversy (and is resolved in a variety of ways in different jurisdictions) seems to be so one-sided to a criminal law professional.

I guess hundreds of thousands of sexuology experts, legislators, judges etc. are not as smart as a crown prosecutor in Yukon.