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Started by Josephus, June 25, 2011, 07:47:46 AM

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Ideologue

Quote from: Martinus on June 28, 2011, 04:29:51 PM
That's rich coming from a country that has a national tv meltdown because an aging pop star shows a nipple on tv.

There isn't an outright ban on nipples, Martinus.  I wouldn't try arguing that the First Amendment protects comic book minor porn on billboards either.  The law this thread was originally about was, of course, about a total ban.  My understanding of Euro hate speech laws is also that any public dissemination is unlawful.

(In fairness, the criminalization of flag/anthem desecration in France is--but only after amendment--also limited by time and place.)

Also, I do not disagree that the reaction was abominably asymmetric, and it is the one area that the United States needs to address and fix in order to perfect our law in the sphere of cultural expression.
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The US has much much stronger freedom of speech than European countries. Because Europeans do not think that free speech is important.
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Martinus

Quote from: HVC on June 28, 2011, 04:39:15 PM
Maybe i just hold more respect for law inforcement then most, but i trust them in most cases. Not all. See Peel Region Police and false officers testimony. Later proven to be false and not looked into further by the crown (crown has to ask police force to look into allegation.sthey don't ask, no one looks).

Also, what's your take on rapists being deported? we hav e a fun thread going on.

It's always safe to look at the hands of law enforcement. For one, they are usually dumb and, as a consequence, underpaid. Which makes them corrupt.

HVC

Quote from: Martinus on June 28, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 28, 2011, 04:39:15 PM
Maybe i just hold more respect for law inforcement then most, but i trust them in most cases. Not all. See Peel Region Police and false officers testimony. Later proven to be false and not looked into further by the crown (crown has to ask police force to look into allegation.sthey don't ask, no one looks).

Also, what's your take on rapists being deported? we hav e a fun thread going on.

It's always safe to look at the hands of law enforcement. For one, they are usually dumb and, as a consequence, underpaid. Which makes them corrupt.
Oh i agree (not the dumb part :P and IIRC they get paid pretty well with a great retirement package) and there should be a lot of scrutiny on officers. which is why the situation  i described distresses me.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
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Barrister

Quote from: Martinus on June 28, 2011, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 28, 2011, 04:39:15 PM
Maybe i just hold more respect for law inforcement then most, but i trust them in most cases. Not all. See Peel Region Police and false officers testimony. Later proven to be false and not looked into further by the crown (crown has to ask police force to look into allegation.sthey don't ask, no one looks).

Also, what's your take on rapists being deported? we hav e a fun thread going on.

It's always safe to look at the hands of law enforcement. For one, they are usually dumb and, as a consequence, underpaid. Which makes them corrupt.

You keep taking Poland as being representative of the West.

Police are quite well paid over here.

So are Crowns in most jurisdictions.  Like Alberta.  :yeah:
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garbon

Quote from: Barrister on June 28, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
Police are quite well paid over here.

Maybe, but not so well paid for the amount of danger that one has to put up with.
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Martinus

Quote from: garbon on June 28, 2011, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 28, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
Police are quite well paid over here.

Maybe, but not so well paid for the amount of danger that one has to put up with.

You mean they could choke on a doughnut while tasing a pot smoking student?

garbon

Quote from: Martinus on June 28, 2011, 05:09:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 28, 2011, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 28, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
Police are quite well paid over here.

Maybe, but not so well paid for the amount of danger that one has to put up with.

You mean they could choke on a doughnut while tasing a pot smoking student?

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Ideologue

Why are the guns dripping blood?  That's why guns were invented, to avoid that sort of thing.
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Neil

Quote from: Ideologue on June 28, 2011, 05:59:45 PM
Why are the guns dripping blood?  That's why guns were invented, to avoid that sort of thing.
???

Things that you kill with a gun still bleed.
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Habbaku

Quote from: Neil on June 28, 2011, 06:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 28, 2011, 05:59:45 PM
Why are the guns dripping blood?  That's why guns were invented, to avoid that sort of thing.
???

Things that you kill with a gun still bleed.

???

Guns are distance weapons.  They tend to be ideal at avoiding getting blood on oneself.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

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Habbaku

Quote from: Neil on June 28, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 27, 2011, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on June 27, 2011, 02:20:23 PM
No, not Hortlund, I was Oxenstierna back in the old forum. We have been over this several times before.
I refuse to believe there are more idiotic Swedes like this. You are Hortlund. Stat.
Stat?

Already noted.  He doesn't actually know what it means.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

Neil

Quote from: Habbaku on June 28, 2011, 06:37:23 PM
Quote from: Neil on June 28, 2011, 06:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 28, 2011, 05:59:45 PM
Why are the guns dripping blood?  That's why guns were invented, to avoid that sort of thing.
???

Things that you kill with a gun still bleed.
???

Guns are distance weapons.  They tend to be ideal at avoiding getting blood on oneself.
Depends on the circumstances.  Still, they are proverbially soaked in blood.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

Habbaku

No, those guns are literally soaked in blood.
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.

-J. R. R. Tolkien

garbon

Quote from: Habbaku on June 28, 2011, 06:55:41 PM
No, those guns are literally soaked in blood.

Our states are literally guns soaked in blood. :(
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.