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Started by Tamas, May 27, 2011, 02:36:19 AM

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Tamas

Quote from: Syt on July 19, 2011, 11:56:38 AM
So, is there an ETA for an "official" patch? I want to hold off of the beta patches for now. I'm asking because I'm eyeing Supreme Ruler: Cold War right now.

Funny you mention that game here. I was home today and mightly bored so I DLed it :P

And the funny comes from the fact that the biggest bane of both games appear to be the same: speed. SRCW is very intriquing, but boy it is slooooooow

Grallon

I've hit the 100 turns mark... after 3-4 weeks.  Somebody said it's a glacial pace and it is.  In any case when Perry came a-knocking I welcomed him and opened Japan and now scripted events start happening... slowly.  Still I've increased my production of basic industrial mats (coal, lumber, minerals) and built  railroads in 4 provinces so far (from Edo to Osaka).  The last event had the loyalty of the plebs drop by 25% but other than that no immediate repercussions.  It's still a bitch to raise manufactured goods and private capital to build other things but, again, slowly but surely I guess is the motto.

Each turn takes about2-3 minutes with patch H.




G.
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Alcibiades

Yeah it's taking about 2 minutes per turn for me as well.  Just feels slow.  Think my US game is up to 1855 now.  :yawn:
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grumbler

I am still very confused by this whole issue of "force pools" for mine, factories, and the like.  I cannto build any more coal mines in my US game, even though I have tons of open coal deposits, because once you build out your force pool, that is it.  I can build a gajillion gem mines and dye mines (not sure why I would be mining dyes and not growing them, but whatever) but not a coal mine, iron ore mine, or minerals mine.  I can grow opium or tea, had I the resources, but not cattle or cereals.  I have the resources, the workers, the money, and the materials all in place, but don't have a tile.  Were the designers of the game even thinking when they decided on this concept?  I cannot imagine what they thought they were simulating when they decided to have the US build its last coal mine in 1855.
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Ed Anger

10 bucks on steam. Might as well give the fucker away.
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sbr

Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 04:58:08 PM
I am still very confused by this whole issue of "force pools" for mine, factories, and the like.  I cannto build any more coal mines in my US game, even though I have tons of open coal deposits, because once you build out your force pool, that is it.  I can build a gajillion gem mines and dye mines (not sure why I would be mining dyes and not growing them, but whatever) but not a coal mine, iron ore mine, or minerals mine.  I can grow opium or tea, had I the resources, but not cattle or cereals.  I have the resources, the workers, the money, and the materials all in place, but don't have a tile.  Were the designers of the game even thinking when they decided on this concept?  I cannot imagine what they thought they were simulating when they decided to have the US build its last coal mine in 1855.

You can get additional mines in your force pool, maybe from new techs, I don't remember.  I think they said they had the limited force pools for gameplay balance reasons which at least makes a small amount of sense even if I do disagree; it would be one thing if a real MP game was possible but considering most people are probably playing SP it doesn't seem necessary.

grumbler

Quote from: sbr on July 19, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
You can get additional mines in your force pool, maybe from new techs, I don't remember.  I think they said they had the limited force pools for gameplay balance reasons which at least makes a small amount of sense even if I do disagree; it would be one thing if a real MP game was possible but considering most people are probably playing SP it doesn't seem necessary.
I don't mind having limited force pools in terms of military units.  Forcing the US to import coal is crazy, though.
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Scipio

On sale on Steam.  Worth it for half price?
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grumbler

Quote from: Scipio on July 19, 2011, 07:34:36 PM
On sale on Steam.  Worth it for half price?
I am enjoying it enough to have gotten my full-price $20 worth.  It's not a great game, but has a lot of feel to it and character, though the learning curve is somewhat steep and it completely lacks some things that would allow the player to conduct his turns more quickly.  Like the number of unemployed workers by city; you have to sort through the cities to find the ones that are ready for another factory at the moment.

Make sure you get the latest beta patch before you start.  It's a bit of a pain to install, but well worth the time spent.
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The Minsky Moment

Quote from: grumbler on July 19, 2011, 04:58:08 PM
I am still very confused by this whole issue of "force pools" for mine, factories, and the like. 

I think at some point the buildings are supposed to upgrade and then you get a new pool.  So perhaps the idea is to push you to get the upgraded building, except of course that the player basically has no control over that.
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HisMajestyBOB

Is it possible to install beta patches and mods with the Steam version? $10 is tempting, but Steam seems to put out patches on their own schedule, and usually not beta patches for P'dox games.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 20, 2011, 06:14:01 PM
Is it possible to install beta patches and mods with the Steam version? $10 is tempting, but Steam seems to put out patches on their own schedule, and usually not beta patches for P'dox games.

I was able to do the 1st beta patch, but I haven't messed with any betas since.
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HisMajestyBOB

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grumbler

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on July 20, 2011, 06:14:01 PM
Is it possible to install beta patches and mods with the Steam version? $10 is tempting, but Steam seems to put out patches on their own schedule, and usually not beta patches for P'dox games.
Yes.  I have the steam version and have updated twice.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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grumbler

The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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