Pride of Nations

[Tamas]

You have to give it to Paradox and AGEOD for coming up with the best games up until you actually play them.

didn't know you play games which have a single player mode

[Ed Anger]

Played about 6 turns, new US game. Discovered you can build expeditionary brigades, build 4 of those 1inf,1cav ones since they are cheaper. I start using them to hammer the Sioux and Cherokee(why is the Cherokee so hostile? Jackson knocked the fight out of them until the CW). 1st brigade rolls up against the Sioux... gets smashed. LOL.

Another restart coming. Need real soldiers against the assholes I guess.

[The Brain]

I think you need to listen to the Rednex song Spirit Of The Hawk to understand the power of Native Americans, Ed. Maybe then you won't underestimate them.

[Ed Anger]

I think you need to listen to the Rednex song Spirit Of The Hawk to understand the power of Native Americans, Ed. Maybe then you won't underestimate them.

I already listened to that Europe song.

[Ed Anger]

Alright, re-started as Austria and I think I've got a handle on the economics. Screw killing indians while I try to learn the damn game.

Protip: Prussia and Russia will buy all your spare iron and minerals. Slavs like shiny rocks!

[Tamas]

So are we going to PBEM this after 1.02 is out?

[Ed Anger]

Got another half year in as Austria. As soon a a new goods factory pops online, the game gets funner. You can start getting goods in at a decent clip to build larger military units, as a new corps takes 20 something goods. And I don't trust those wops, and Radetzky looks asleep in his picture in Venice. So another corps to shove down their dirty greasy wop asses will make me feel better.

I better get some new generals(or figure out how to get them) soon. They all look like death.

[Tamas]

Yeah that goods factory is absolutely crucial for Austria, because the manu. goods market can dry the fuck up, and if you tried to sneak on using imports, well, you are fooked blinking while the others industrialize, because you have a big army so you need a given amount just to maintain your posture.

[Norgy]

It's enjoyable so far, in the sense that I enjoy ventures into the unknown. The US is perhaps a bit too large to start out with, as I was confuzzled.

Very detailed game, and a lot of stuff to keep track of. The GUI is ok but a tad small, and turns resolve quite quickly with a i7 2600.

[grumbler]

Picked this up, and am enjoying it so far.  Steep learning curve and some confusion about ends versus means (prestige is affected by a lot of things I don't think were involved in national prestige, like ship and unit decommissionings) but it all seems to make sense after you play it a bit.

[Kleves]

How's the complexity compared to Victoria?

[Norgy]

How's the complexity compared to Victoria?

First impression is that Victoria is Lego while this is the Manhattan Project.
It's incredibly easy to get lost.

I still wonder how the hell I manage my merchant fleets and the tech tree.

While both have some underlying system you need to understand at some point, it looks like PoN is far superior at hiding it.

[sbr]

There is really no managing of the tech tree.  The only influence you can have is to spend $250 to increase the speed of one tech 5x for one turn.

[Norgy]

I realised that too. And it seems like a really bad investment early in the game compared to ramping up infrastructure or building either raw material sources or manufacturing plants.

[szmik]

Bids and offers system on world market is exactly what I wanted to see, reminds me of Imperialism games. I wonder how price is calculated though.