The Obama "To Make Important Statement" MEGATHREAD

[jimmy olsen]

I don't know. It seems like a perfect message a "moderate" (a Hawkish voter willing to vote Democrat) ...

There are no such voters in America though.

Irony?

You voted for Obama and you're pretty hawkish.

[Berkut]

Well although Berkut couldn't be bothered to tear into Chomsky, I guess Hitchens had nothing better to do:

http://www.slate.com/id/2293541/

Good article, although it is a little unfair of Hitchens - like Alex Rodribuez showing up my kids little league game and hitting home runs. Sure, you can do it, but it doesn't really mean anything...

I did like his point that Chomsky is actually saying that the Americans are actually WORSE than the Nazis, since the Nazis were not so uncouth as to actually name their weapons "Jews" and "Gypsys"....while apparently we actually do...

[Razgovory]

Wonder what the purpose is in leaking this?

Someone felt the need to state the obvious.

[jamesww]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

[Admiral Yi]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

[garbon]

Well although Berkut couldn't be bothered to tear into Chomsky, I guess Hitchens had nothing better to do:

http://www.slate.com/id/2293541/

Good article, although it is a little unfair of Hitchens - like Alex Rodribuez showing up my kids little league game and hitting home runs. Sure, you can do it, but it doesn't really mean anything...

I did like his point that Chomsky is actually saying that the Americans are actually WORSE than the Nazis, since the Nazis were not so uncouth as to actually name their weapons "Jews" and "Gypsys"....while apparently we actually do...

I got agree with Berk. Why waste time even critiquing Chomsky? Fool's errand.

[sbr]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

How many precedents are there for that type of mission at all?

At least that made it far enough to become public?

[Barrister]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

How many precedents are there for that type of mission at all?

At least that made it far enough to become public?

Adolf Eichmann is all I can think of.

[Josephus]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

How many precedents are there for that type of mission at all?

At least that made it far enough to become public?

Adolf Eichmann is all I can think of.

And they didn't shoot him right away.

[Razgovory]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

Pakistan is a friendly country in the same way South Vietnam was.

[Berkut]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

Pakistan is a friendly country in the same way South Vietnam was.

I am not sure Pakistan is that friendly. In fact, I am pretty sure they are considerably less friendly than South Vietnam was...

[Malthus]

I'd have thought it goes without saying, if you plan such a risky mission, then there will be all sorts of back up firepower and other options readied. 

To go in on a wing and a prayer, hoping it all goes largely to plan, would seem to be grossly negligent on the part of the planners and commanders.

A contingency plan to shoot your way out of an ostensibly friendly country is hardly as commonplace as you make it out.

I can't think of any precedent myself.

How many precedents are there for that type of mission at all?

At least that made it far enough to become public?

Adolf Eichmann is all I can think of.

The Entebbe mission?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe

Though Uganda was "questionable" in its friendliness ... 

Edit: I never knew this. Guy's a hero (and it makes Air France look like a bunch of assholes!)

For refusing to depart (and subsequently leave some of his passengers as hostages) when given leave to do so by the hijackers, Captain Bacos was reprimanded by his superiors at Air France and suspended from duty for a period.

[Caliga]

The French don't like it when people fail to retreat or surrender when given the opportunity to do so.

[Malthus]

The French don't like it when people fail to retreat or surrender when given the opportunity to do so.

Heh. Nice living up to the meme. 

But seriously ... I just can't see how the Air France "superiors" could have the nerve to punish a guy who put his ass on the line for others.

[Caliga]

I'm on my memes like flies on shit.