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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Razgovory

Quote from: Jacob on Today at 02:15:26 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 02, 2025, 10:36:23 PMNo, it's just something you don't like hear about.  I mean we've been going on about Trump for over a decade now, and it gets in pretty much every thread.  You don't get tired of that.  You don't get tired of people bring up racism in other threads.  The problem is not that it is tedious, it is because it is uncomfortable.

I'm curious, do you discuss this topic elsewhere or do you mainly confine you discussion of Israel and Palestine to languish?
Else where on the internet.  Do you discuss Trump or racism anywhere else?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 02, 2025, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on October 02, 2025, 08:35:06 PMBut killing civilians isn't actually wrong.  It's part of warfare.  It is legal. 

As a general statement, applied to all circumstances, none of those statements are true. 

You would think that the State of Israel, of all nations in the world would be first to understand that.

I don't know where of any action that, as a general statement, applied to all circumstances, is legal.  But you can kill civilians in war.  I would think that the state of Israel would understand that they can't lose a war.  No country values the lives of the citizens of its enemies over the lives of its own people.  Judging from the reaction to the killings of Israeli Diplomatic staff and the murder of Charlie Kirk by people on this forum and else where the deaths of civilians is not the catastrophe that it is made out to be.  The hypocrisy in this is galling, which is why I bring it up sometimes and why, I believe, other people here are bothered by it.  Talking about Trump and MAGA racism is comforting.  There is a clear good and evil, we know we are right.  In Palestine so many leftists are promoting the cause of people who are so much worse than Trump or MAGA.  It is shocking to see people who denounce religious fundamentalism as fascist in the US silent when it comes to Palestine.

If it ever comes to war with MAGA, and who knows what the future holds anymore, I am sure that the bombing, deprivation, and hunger in the fly-over-states will not pull the heart strings of people.  The sympathy for suffering civilians will not be an impediment to victory.  It may even be praiseworthy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Norgy on Today at 02:07:55 AMThe military is there to defend civilians, as far as I have understood. That is the basic principle.

The Geneva convention is pretty clear, but I suppose it is not very popular reading these days.


The military is there to execute the policies of their state.  I do not know of any military that was founded on the principle of defending the civilian population the enemy.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

crazy canuck

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: Norgy on Today at 02:07:55 AMThe military is there to defend civilians, as far as I have understood. That is the basic principle.

The Geneva convention is pretty clear, but I suppose it is not very popular reading these days.


The military is there to execute the policies of their state.  I do not know of any military that was founded on the principle of defending the civilian population the enemy.

Oh my, no wonder you see no problem with what Israel is doing.
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Razgovory

Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: Norgy on Today at 02:07:55 AMThe military is there to defend civilians, as far as I have understood. That is the basic principle.

The Geneva convention is pretty clear, but I suppose it is not very popular reading these days.


The military is there to execute the policies of their state.  I do not know of any military that was founded on the principle of defending the civilian population the enemy.

Oh my, no wonder you see no problem with what Israel is doing.
Just as you did not object to the war on ISIS.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017