Jimmy Carter Strikes Again - Human Rights Abuses against North Koreans ...

Started by Malthus, April 28, 2011, 10:52:24 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Razgovory

Quote from: garbon on May 04, 2011, 04:51:19 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/04/huntsman-candidacy-for-gop-nomination-wins-praise-from-jimmy-carter/

QuoteFormer Democratic President Jimmy Carter has a favorite in the race for the Republican nomination for president.

In an interview printed Wednesday by CNN, Carter said that Jon Huntsman is "very attractive to me personally."


He's lusting in his heart again.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

jimmy olsen

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Really? Why?
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Razgovory

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 04, 2011, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Really? Why?

Just didn't like the Pie Faced bastards.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: garbon on May 04, 2011, 04:51:19 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/04/huntsman-candidacy-for-gop-nomination-wins-praise-from-jimmy-carter/

QuoteFormer Democratic President Jimmy Carter has a favorite in the race for the Republican nomination for president.

In an interview printed Wednesday by CNN, Carter said that Jon Huntsman is "very attractive to me personally."

Huntsman formed a PAC on Tuesday, a move widely considered a step to launching a run for president.

The former Utah governor and former Ambassador to China is disliked by some conservatives for being a moderate Republican closely affiliated with the Obama administration.

Carter told CNN that despite his attraction to Huntsman, his "intention is to vote for the Democratic candidate."

In April, The Daily Caller published fawning letters written by Huntsman to President Obama and former President Bill Clinton. Huntsman called Obama a "remarkable leader" and complimented Clinton's "brilliant analysis of world events."

On Tuesday, Carter told CNN, "I still believe that racial issue is one of the factors, not the only factor, in people accusing President Obama of not being a citizen of America."

Carter addressed possible presidential candidate Donald Trump's "birther" crusade, saying, "Donald Trump was apparently just using it to get publicity for himself and to separate himself from the even more rational Republicans."

I like Huntsman. Now he's tainted. :weep:


Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 04, 2011, 08:15:50 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 28, 2011, 12:38:21 PM
He has a long history of South Korea hate. It was only the valiant defiant efforts of his cabinet that prevented him from withdrawing from South Korea.
Really? Why?

It was right after the US withdrawal from SE Asia and the fall of Saigon. He apparently felt that the US would be better off withdrawing completely from mainland east Asia.
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

Kleves

Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
That guy is just a white Obama.
Carter crashed a helicopter into Iran. Obama crashed a helicopter into Pakistan and killed bin Laden. Advantage: Obama.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

DGuller

Quote from: Kleves on May 04, 2011, 11:12:25 PM
Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 11:16:43 AM
That guy is just a white Obama.
Carter crashed a helicopter into Iran. Obama crashed a helicopter into Pakistan and killed bin Laden. Advantage: Obama.
Obviously the quoted post reflected pre-5/1 mentality.  :rolleyes:

Martinus

He couldn't have chosen a better moment, considering the information released by the Amnesty International just two days ago:

QuoteLONDON (Reuters) – North Korea is holding around 200,000 people in huge political prison camps where inmates are forced to work in conditions approaching slavery and are often tortured, Amnesty International said on Tuesday.

The rights group published recent satellite images showing four of the six camps located in vast wilderness sites in South Pyongan, South Hamkyung and North Hamkyung provinces.

A comparison with satellite pictures from 2001 indicated a significant increase in the scale of the camps, which are believed to have been operating since the 1950s, it said.

Amnesty International spoke to a number of people, including former inmates from the political prison camp at Yodok, as well as guards in other camps, revealing what it said were horrific conditions.

The former detainees at Yodok said prisoners were forced to work in conditions close to slavery and were frequently subjected to torture and other cruel, inhumane, and degrading treatment, Amnesty International said. All the detainees at Yodok had witnessed public executions, it said.

Food is scarce in the camps. Amnesty International said it had been told of several accounts of people eating rats or picking corn kernels out of animal waste to survive.


Amnesty called on North Korea, one of the world's most secretive states, to close all political prison camps and to release all prisoners of conscience.

"North Korea can no longer deny the undeniable. For decades the authorities have refused to admit to the existence of mass political prison camps," Sam Zarifi, Amnesty International's Asia Pacific director, said in a statement.

"As North Korea seems to be moving toward a new leader in Kim Jong-un and a period of political instability, the big worry is that the prison camps appear to be growing in size," he said, referring to the son and presumed successor of Kim Jong-il.

Thousands of people are believed to be held as "guilty-by-association" or sent to the camps simply because one of their relatives has been detained, Amnesty said.

According to one former detainee at Yodok, an estimated 40 percent of inmates died from malnutrition between 1999 and 2001.


Jeong Kyoungil, who was detained in Yodok from 2000 to 2003, said prisoners worked from 4 a.m. to 8 p.m. with two breaks for meals of corn gruel. "From 9 p.m. to 11 p.m., it's time for ideology education. If we don't memorize the 10 codes of ethics we would not be allowed to sleep," he said.

"Disruptive" inmates are put for at least a week in a cube "torture cell," where it is impossible to either stand or lie down, Amnesty International said.

This is from huffpo. I also read elsewhere that kids born to people there are also kept there for the rest of their lives.

So the question is: is Carter a complete moron or a total douche-bag? This guy strikes me as an American version of Ken Livingstone - growing more and more disgusting as he gets older.

Martinus

Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
Jimmy Carter is an excellent argument for electing dictators for life rather than presidents for 4 years.

You mean against, right?

Ed Anger

QuoteSo the question is: is Carter a complete moron or a total douche-bag?

I'd say moron. Jimmy boy at least builds houses for the poors.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Caliga

Actually I think he's more of a douchebag than a moron.  Yes, he does build houses for poors, but his constant attention whoring betrays him as an unrepentant egomaniac, and his tendency to say dumb shit about what the current President is doing is couterproductive.  Notice how whenever there's a current-and-former Presidents gathering, he's always standing off to the side in the group photo?  I'm sure they all hate him.
0 Ed Anger Disapproval Points

KRonn

Yeah, North Korea, a slave state nation run by one of the world's most abusive governments. It's their fault entirely that their people don't have enough food. Carter enables the NK govt by passing the blame. Instead he should be lambasting the NK govt for what they do everywhere in the nation. I can't imagine the horror conditions the people in that Huff article have to live under. In fact, the people of NK are probably fed mainly by the good graces of other countries, because the NK govt surely isn't helping the plight of its people.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Martinus on May 05, 2011, 02:03:47 AM
So the question is: is Carter a complete moron or a total douche-bag? This guy strikes me as an American version of Ken Livingstone - growing more and more disgusting as he gets older.
I'd say senile. He was a bad president, but he wasn't this flaky back then.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
--------------------------------------------
1 Karma Chameleon point

Caliga

Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 05, 2011, 09:00:12 AM
I'd say senile.
While I agree that's a possibility, you'd think some of his handlers/his wife would gently back him out of the spoltlight if it was the case (see: Reagan).
0 Ed Anger Disapproval Points

Capetan Mihali

JC just speaks truth to power.  :elvis:

EDIT: Honestly, he really does.   :bowler: Crybaby Americans just don't want to hear about it.  :wacko:  Yes, Israel is an apartheid state.  No, sanctions have never done anything but starve poor people to death.  No, Bill Clinton is not cool.  Yes, we were malaised.  JC = 4/4.   :secret: :showoff:
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
-- Prince, 2010. (R.I.P.)

grumbler

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on May 05, 2011, 09:15:46 AM
JC just speaks truth to power.  :elvis:

EDIT: Honestly, he really does.   :bowler: Crybaby Americans just don't want to hear about it.  :wacko:  Yes, Israel is an apartheid state.  No, sanctions have never done anything but starve poor people to death.  No, Bill Clinton is not cool.  Yes, we were malaised.  JC = 4/4.   :secret: :showoff:
OOOh, argumentation by assertion!  That's never been tried on languish before!  I'll bet it works really, really well.  :sleep:
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!