German socialists call for boycott of Israel, deny Holocaust

Started by Syt, April 28, 2011, 08:28:03 AM

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citizen k

Quote from: Zanza2 on April 28, 2011, 10:56:24 AM
The German far-left has a history of being anti-Israel, mostly in the guise of being pro-Palestinian. Right after the war, they were strongly pro-Isreal and the non-radical left still is in general. But the radicals changed their mind during the riots of 1967-68 and the anti-Israel sentiment was at its strongest in the 1970s. Not sure if it makes sense to distinguish between anti-Israel and anti-semitism here though, but what you hear from the radical left always aims at Israel, not at all Jews from what I can tell.

That's what I was thinking and why I got a chuckle from this statement:

Quote"We are totally outraged. That's all far-right radical nonsense," said  Rook, speculating that an extremist mole burrowed himself into the party  and posted the flyer onto the website.


Cecil

Well I dont know for certain about the rest of the western european countries but it seems to me that most of the anti Israel/semitic drivel that gets portioned out comes from the left these days. The new wave of populist rightwing  parties that have risen are usually pro-israel. So in essence this doesnt come as a huge surprise seeing as I see a lot of the same stuff over here.

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Quote from: citizen k on April 28, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
Quote"We are totally outraged. That's all far-right radical nonsense," said  Rook, speculating that an extremist mole burrowed himself into the party  and posted the flyer onto the website.

It was "The Mossad"/"The CIA"/"The Neo-Nazis" etc. I despise those who resort to conspiracy theoryism.
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When I saw the thread title, I thought ah crap. But then it turned out to be Die Linke. Those guys can diaf.
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Quote from: Martim Silva on April 28, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
The Socialists that Syt mentions are real Socialists, not fake ones.

The 'Die Linke' Party is not the Social-democratic SPD, but a fusion between the PDS - the Party that succeeded the SED, the Communist Party of East Germany - and the Left wing of the SPD (which split from the SPD, as it realized that that Party had become part of a 'fake' Left).
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Quote from: grumbler on April 28, 2011, 06:07:33 PM
Quote from: Martim Silva on April 28, 2011, 10:17:07 AM
The Socialists that Syt mentions are real Socialists, not fake ones.

The 'Die Linke' Party is not the Social-democratic SPD, but a fusion between the PDS - the Party that succeeded the SED, the Communist Party of East Germany - and the Left wing of the SPD (which split from the SPD, as it realized that that Party had become part of a 'fake' Left).
I love the smell of the "No True Scotsman" argument in the morning...
Morning?  Do you teach a graveyard shift or something?

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Neil

The extreme left deals in theory and make-believe as if it were reality.  Although it's indisputable that the circumstances surrounding the founding of Israel reflect extremely badly on the Jews and sympathizers that founded it, it's not 1946 anymore.  What's happened has happened, and simply eliminating Israel isn't an option, nor would it be desirable even if it were.
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I know a German who's grandfather died during the holocaust.

He fell from the guard tower.



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Caliga

Alot of Germans were killed as part of the Holocaust, dude.  Seriously.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 28, 2011, 10:01:13 AM
It just occurred to me that we need "Like" buttons here, a la Facebook.

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Well his wife is out of action....
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grumbler

Quote from: DGuller on April 28, 2011, 06:16:14 PM
Morning?  Do you teach a graveyard shift or something?
I tried to teach a graveyard shift, but you can't teach it much, so I stopped.  Do you teach a graveyard shift?
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grumbler

Quote from: Siege on April 28, 2011, 08:21:52 PM
I know a German who's grandfather died during the holocaust.

He fell from the guard tower.
Well, I've seen that joke botched as badly as this, but never worse.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 28, 2011, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: derspiess on April 28, 2011, 10:01:13 AM
It just occurred to me that we need "Like" buttons here, a la Facebook.

Are you coming on to me?

Well, I was talking about posts, but if there was an Admiral Yi Facebook-type group as well, then yeah, I guess I'd "Like" that as well :hug:
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