Falcon Heavy Launch Vehicle to carry 53 Tons at $1,000 per pound

Started by jimmy olsen, April 06, 2011, 07:24:22 PM

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Ed Anger

Quote from: grumbler on April 07, 2011, 06:50:07 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on April 06, 2011, 08:42:21 PM
If an international conflict got to the scale that we need to obliterate them with orbital weapons, that would likely be another nuclear power, and at that point, a little fallout will make little difference since they would us nukes on us (where the fallout really matters) anyway. 

There really isn't any reason to nuke a non-nuclear state.  Nor would there be any reason to drop God Rods on one (that would justify the expense).
You realize that this is pure, 100% argument by assertion, right?

The assertion that there is no target which would be worthy of a visit by an exoatmospheric kinetic weapon is unwarranted.  I can see any number of targets whose destruction by an unfortunate meteor strike would cost me no tears.

Like Poland.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Monoriu on April 07, 2011, 02:38:47 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.
Orbital weapons platform or the rocket? There's no reason to doubt the rocket, they're a competent commercial organization, not NASA.
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Josquius

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 06, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
Excellent, now is the time for orbital weapons platforms.  :cool:


Hope not, space should be peaceful.

Isn't there a treaty against that sort of thing anyway?
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Ed Anger

I don't know which is worse, Timmay's space erections or Josq's hippie bullshit.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Tyr on April 07, 2011, 08:09:53 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 06, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
Excellent, now is the time for orbital weapons platforms.  :cool:


Hope not, space should be peaceful.

Isn't there a treaty against that sort of thing anyway?
I believe the treaty is against nuclear weapons. Kinetic weapons were not covered IIRC.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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grumbler

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2011, 08:08:35 AM
Quote from: Monoriu on April 07, 2011, 02:38:47 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.
Orbital weapons platform or the rocket? There's no reason to doubt the rocket, they're a competent commercial organization, not NASA.
There is reason to doubt the cost estimates, since the company has a motive to be rosy in their projections.

Getting costs own that low would be pretty incredible, though it may contribute to space debris since it would make some temporary space applications seem worthwhile.
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dps

Quote from: Tonitrus on April 06, 2011, 08:42:21 PM
There really isn't any reason to nuke a non-nuclear state. 

Truman would disagree.

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80learn to use metric measurements.

We know how to, but chose not to. 




jimmy olsen

It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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Razgovory

Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 07, 2011, 08:13:20 AM
Quote from: Tyr on April 07, 2011, 08:09:53 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 06, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
Excellent, now is the time for orbital weapons platforms.  :cool:


Hope not, space should be peaceful.

Isn't there a treaty against that sort of thing anyway?
I believe the treaty is against nuclear weapons. Kinetic weapons were not covered IIRC.

The treaty will likely be junked if there ever is an economic interest in outer space.
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