The Fed Shutdown Poll and Megathread

[Habbaku]

We had an extreme ham once. Once of those gigantic Virginia salted hams. It was revolting.

Speaking of extreme hams, this week I've been tackling a 3 pound can of extra-lean Polish ham.  Mmmmmm....

  Martinus isn't that thin.

[MadImmortalMan]

Ham in a can?

[DGuller]

[KRonn]

Krakus is supposed to be a good ham. Reminds me that I wanted to check that out at the market!

But you guys need to stop hamming it up....   

[The Minsky Moment]

This thread: not kosher.

[Razgovory]

That's not what Republicans at the time were saying.  They were explicitly saying they were picking up white southerners because Democrats had picked up the mantle of civil rights.

Really? They were explicitly saying that?  Quote?

Of course once the civil rights act was passed it was only a matter of time before southerners would abandon the democrats, though it still took 30 years for the GOP to make significant gains. Since support for segregation was the chief reason southerners supported the democrats in the first place its elimination meant that in the long-term other issues would start to dominate. Combine that with the democratic party's decision to remake itself after the '68 fiasco into a party of the left and the only surprising thing about the rise of the GOP in the south is how long it took.

The South was shifting toward the GOP before '68.  They were doing so in '64.  They would have gone sooner if Northern Democrats hadn't been so badly beaten in the early 50's.

But here's your quotes

Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn't have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.

    Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?

    Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

This was from the early 1980's.

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

Kevin Philips from 1970 (he later went Democratic, but not in 1970).

[Caliga]

Only poor city slickers eat ham out of a can.

Whenever I want ham or any other kind of pork, I can get it fresh slaughtered from a farmer a mile or two from my house.

[Barrister]

Only poor city slickers eat ham out of a can.

Whenever I want ham or any other kind of pork, I can get it fresh slaughtered from a farmer a mile or two from my house.

If you're getting a pig freshly slaughtered what you are getting is NOT ham.

[MadImmortalMan]

Only poor city slickers eat ham out of a can.

Whenever I want ham or any other kind of pork, I can get it fresh slaughtered from a farmer a mile or two from my house.

If you're getting a pig freshly slaughtered what you are getting is NOT ham.

You gotta cure it.

[Barrister]

Only poor city slickers eat ham out of a can.

Whenever I want ham or any other kind of pork, I can get it fresh slaughtered from a farmer a mile or two from my house.

If you're getting a pig freshly slaughtered what you are getting is NOT ham.

You gotta cure it.

That would be the point I am making, yes.   

[FunkMonk]

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[Caliga]

Who said you have to eat meat right after it's slaughtered?

[Fate]

Oh, Drudge. 

[Slargos]

Who said you have to eat meat right after it's slaughtered?

It is my understanding that in fact, if you want ham, you can't eat it right away. It needs to be prepared first.

[Ed Anger]

We had an extreme ham once. Once of those gigantic Virginia salted hams. It was revolting.

Speaking of extreme hams, this week I've been tackling a 3 pound can of extra-lean Polish ham.  Mmmmmm....

  Martinus isn't that thin.

He sounds fat when he posts.