Game of Thrones begins....

[The Minsky Moment]

Euron + Cersei?

Nothing that could stand up to the Dany coalition on land.
Euron would have to use the magic time slips to jumpstart the greatest feat of naval construction since the Essex carriers were built.  And make them out of fireproof wood . . .

[LaCroix]

aren't the final two seasons cut short by a few episodes? cersei falling by episode 3 or 4 leaves enough time to deal with the aftermath before the wall falls and everyone reacts -> end of season. I don't think we're meant to think cersei has a chance against daenerys, more that this was an extremely hollow victory for cersei.

[Habbaku]

Yes, the last seasons are going to be truncated.  One of the directors confirmed next season was only 7 episodes.

[The Larch]

In the books Euron claims to have the magic horn to control dragons, I wonder if they'll pull that off next season...

[Habbaku]

In the books Euron claims to have the magic horn to control dragons, I wonder if they'll pull that off next season...

I doubt it.  We'll get summoned krakens, instead.   

[grumbler]

Yes, the last season are going to be truncated.  One of the directors confirmed next season was only 7 episodes.

I recall reading that season 7 was going to be eight episodes, and season 9 was going to be seven:  fifteen total episodes to go.

The reason stated was the long production times (lots of dragon time, walker time, and wildfire CGI, is my guess).

[Jacob]

So we have the long anticipated reveal that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. So that is good....but...

How is it going to be revealed to anyone other than Bran? Assuming Bran even gets to Winterfell, why would anyone believe him?

The only person who was there who is still alive is Howland Reed, and even he doesn't seem like a very convincing eyewitness to anyone not inclined to backing Jon anyway...

Curious to see how this comes out...

From a claim standpoint, he is still a bastard though, right? If a bastard has a claim, one would think Gendry would be a viable heir at this point....what in the hell every happened to him anyway?

My extremely uneducated guess at one possibility: at some point or other Jon gets burnt by dragonfire, only he remains unscathed due to his heritage. That would seem a pretty solid indication.

[Berkut]

So we have the long anticipated reveal that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. So that is good....but...

How is it going to be revealed to anyone other than Bran? Assuming Bran even gets to Winterfell, why would anyone believe him?

The only person who was there who is still alive is Howland Reed, and even he doesn't seem like a very convincing eyewitness to anyone not inclined to backing Jon anyway...

Curious to see how this comes out...

From a claim standpoint, he is still a bastard though, right? If a bastard has a claim, one would think Gendry would be a viable heir at this point....what in the hell every happened to him anyway?

My extremely uneducated guess at one possibility: at some point or other Jon gets burnt by dragonfire, only he remains unscathed due to his heritage. That would seem a pretty solid indication.

I was thinking maybe as an explanation for why the dragons tolerate him?

[Jacob]

I was thinking maybe as an explanation for why the dragons tolerate him?

Yeah, something like that. "The proof is in the dragons," as the old saying goes.

[Phillip V]

From a claim standpoint, he is still a bastard though, right?

Correct Dany has the better claim, OTOH Targs have a history of sibling marriage . . .

Jon likes redheads, though. 

Jon's other sibling.  Lots of shots this episode of Jon+Sansa = Ned+Cat

[Habbaku]

Well, it's either the cousin-who-thinks-he's-her-brother or the aunt-who-doesn't-know-they're-related.

Incest is wincest. 

[Berkut]

If Bran shows up, it could be that he finds someone who is no relation at all...but turns out to be his twin sister!

[Habbaku]

[Josquius]

So we have the long anticipated reveal that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. So that is good....but...

How is it going to be revealed to anyone other than Bran? Assuming Bran even gets to Winterfell, why would anyone believe him?

The only person who was there who is still alive is Howland Reed, and even he doesn't seem like a very convincing eyewitness to anyone not inclined to backing Jon anyway...

Curious to see how this comes out...

From a claim standpoint, he is still a bastard though, right? If a bastard has a claim, one would think Gendry would be a viable heir at this point....what in the hell every happened to him anyway?

I guess the tree where bran was dropped off is the one just north of the wall where Jon said his vows.
Don't think getting to winterfell will be an issue. 

Though   coldhands really should have hung around until they were safely through.  Pfff .

I wonder how they'll deal with bran, the legal heir, showing up. I doubt they will cover it much and will just shrug it off for more important things

[KRonn]

I was thinking maybe as an explanation for why the dragons tolerate him?

Yeah, something like that. "The proof is in the dragons," as the old saying goes.

Hmm, good possibility. I was wondering how Jon's heritage would play out and that's one idea. He's King in the North now and gaining banner men and while that would probably be enough for him, it's likely that he'll go further.