Game of Thrones begins....

[crazy canuck]

I don't recall Ned being dishonest in the books.  Rather honest to a fault.  He was even scrupulous about not lying about Snow - "he is of my blood" etc.

Is this a device created by the show or I am just not remembering that part in the books?

[Josquius]

True.
Though I guess it could just be part of the Jon lie. Though why?

Speaking of lying- bloodraven (why does me phone want to write a A for that?) In a tree for 1000 years?  Hmm....
Though interesting the plan isn't for bran to stay.  Maybe.

[Grinning_Colossus]

I don't recall Ned being dishonest in the books.  Rather honest to a fault.  He was even scrupulous about not lying about Snow - "he is of my blood" etc.

Is this a device created by the show or I am just not remembering that part in the books?

IIRC, Bran said that he'd heard the story a thousand times, not that Ned had told him the story a thousand times. Ned probably wouldn't want to talk about it, but he'd sound like a hero in the version popular in Winterfell.

[Jaron]

Ned is honorable to a fault, yes, but willing to sacrifice his personal honor to protect others.

Claiming Jon as a bastard, making a false confession to protect Sansa are too examples of that. He wouldn't do something dishonorable for personal gain though, I don't think so.

[Admiral Yi]

When I saw the scene I thought Ned had lied about it to protect the reputation of the back stabber.

Though on the other hand I don't really see how back stabbing is dishonorable while attacking 2 guys with 6 is not.

[viper37]

Ok, Episode 1, I get where they're going with Dorne.

In the books, Dorne is there to provide support for the Targaryen retake of the Iron Throne, Daenerys or the other one.

Since that part was cut in the tv show, they obviously need something to stir up conflict with the Lannisters, to push Dorne into the fight on Daenerys' side.

Now, with Dorian Martel in power, he would have sacrificed the ladies to make peace with the Lannisters, until the right time, because he knows he can't fight them alone.
Obviously, the Sand Snakes believe they can do better, and Tommen will likely be pushed toward declaring war, since they killed his sister.

Eventually, Daenerys will find her way to Westeros, the North will be re-united under the Stark, the South will be a Targaryen-Martel alliance, girl power&all that, and they will squeeze the Lannisters in the center until the Tyrell switch camp, as the Lannister did in the previous civil war.

Now, is it well done?  No, not particularly.  Is it worst than in the books where the author sprang a rabbit out of his hat to find a male heir to the Targaryen family, previously unknown to all?  Nope.

I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt and want to see how it unfolds.

[Habbaku]

Is it worst than in the books where the author sprang a rabbit out of his hat to find a male heir to the Targaryen family, previously unknown to all?  Nope

Jon Connington's Targaryen boy is as much a Targaryen as Jeyne Poole was a Stark.

[Eddie Teach]

Now, with Oberyn Martel in power, he would have sacrificed the ladies to make peace with the Lannisters, until the right time, because he knows he can't fight them alone.
Obviously, the Sand Snakes believe they can do better, and Tommen will likely be pushed toward declaring war, since they killed his sister.

Oberyn seemed pretty keen on taking vengeance on the Lannisters before the Mountain tore his eyes out.

[viper37]

ah, got them mixed up.  Dorian.

[Siege]

Did the valyrians make suits of armor out of valyrian steel?
I'm not clear on the technological level of the valyrian freehold. Did they use chainmail or plated armor? How about dragon skin? Would a dead dragon skin still be useful as leather armor?

[Josquius]

What do you call steel from valyria that isn't valyrian steel?

[Barrister]

What do you call steel from valyria that isn't valyrian steel?

Crap.

[The Minsky Moment]

What do you call steel from valyria that isn't valyrian steel?

Non-Valyrian steel*



*Made in Valyria

[Siege]

What do you call steel from valyria that isn't valyrian steel?

Oh please.
Don't waste my limited time.

[grumbler]

What do you call steel from valyria that isn't valyrian steel?

Champagne.