Game of Thrones begins....

[Valmy]

Even in the books Sansa is a weak character, so naive.

I am sure in that situation you would have ripped out your twin machine guns and kicked ass like a boss.

[The Brain]

Sansa is a great character, but people prefer little-girls-turned-ninja-wizards and obese-guys-who-magically-stay-obese-after-months-of-hunger-and-cold, so whatchagonnado.

[garbon]

Sansa is a great character, but people prefer little-girls-turned-ninja-wizards and obese-guys-who-magically-stay-obese-after-months-of-hunger-and-cold, so whatchagonnado.

I mean if we want to read about helpless characters, we can just chat with some of the members of the forum.

I don't like Sansa in the books because she didn't seem to have a lot of growth for a long time. She kept to childlike naivete time and time again.  Meanwhile her next of kin (Arya) became a warrior woman in a few seconds flat.

[Valmy]

I don't like Sansa in the books because she didn't seem to have a lot of growth for a long time. She kept to childlike naivete time and time again.  Meanwhile her next of kin (Arya) became a warrior woman in a few seconds flat.

I don't know the stakes kept being raised.  One guy whose life you saved wanting to help you doesn't seem too far fetched. 

In any case I started to get really pumped in AFFC because it seemed like she was growing and learning...and then nothing in the last book.  Damn it.

[crazy canuck]

Any minute Sansa is on the screen is wasted minute. Less is more.

We've spent too much time dealing with Dany in season 1 when it was boring. The show runners learned their lesson.

Even in the books Sansa is a weak character, so naive.

I agree.  What happens around her and the interaction she has with the main characters (ie how she is manipulated) is the interesting part.  We lose a lot of that with Balish in the current season.  So I dont disgree with GF but I do think the show could have made the plot lines involving her both more accurate and more interesting.

[Ed Anger]

Sansa is a great character, but people prefer little-girls-turned-ninja-wizards and obese-guys-who-magically-stay-obese-after-months-of-hunger-and-cold, so whatchagonnado.

I mean if we want to read about helpless characters, we can just chat with some of the members of the forum.

OH SNAP

[garbon]

Sansa is a great character, but people prefer little-girls-turned-ninja-wizards and obese-guys-who-magically-stay-obese-after-months-of-hunger-and-cold, so whatchagonnado.

I mean if we want to read about helpless characters, we can just chat with some of the members of the forum.

OH SNAP

I thought about naming names but then thought about the impact that might have on my karma.

[crazy canuck]

Wait, you worry about karma?

[garbon]

Wait, you worry about karma?

Part and parcel of my Indian heritage.

[Valmy]

Wait, you worry about karma?

Part and parcel of my Indian heritage.

[Grey Fox]

Not this again.

[garbon]

Not this again.

[grumbler]

Yeah, I don't have any issue at all with the what they were trying to accomplish with the scene.

I can imagine there is a blocking note in the initial script there that says <Need scene here to remind everyone what a total badass/douchebag/monster Sandor Clegane is...>.

I just think their execution of said was, well, incredibly terrible.

Like they had their 14 year old intern write it or something. Maybe someone's little brother.

"Oh man, yeah, Clegane is totally badass! Lets have him just chopping dudes up for no apparent reason! It will be so cool! Then Cersei can come strolling through the entrails and shit! Suh-weeeeeet!"

Agree completely.  It was a ham-handed way of handling the issue.  Sometimes, even HBO fucks up.

This was written by Benioff and Weiss, though, so that explains why the producers didn't tell the writer to come up with a better idea! 

[grumbler]

Even in the books Sansa is a weak character, so naive.

True.  The books are very much dumbed down so that even people who are otnay ootay ightbray can follow the complex story.  TV is more subtle and has no time or wasted motion, so you have to be a bit quicker to catch all of the nuances.

[crazy canuck]

 

Passive aggressiveness for the win.